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I think you need to go have a look at a foto of the ukip red battle bus, it clearly does not say that £350 million would go to the nhs, the second line clearly states, lets fund the nhs instead.

 

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The real problem is the word send, which Vote Leave seems to have difficulty understanding. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the verb means to cause to go or be taken to a particular destination; arrange for the delivery of.

Assuming we accept that definition, then it is simply and very demonstrably not true to say that Britain sends £350m a week to the EU. That amount of money does not leave (and has never left) Britain each week, nor does it arrive in Brussels.

The sum of £350m a week is based on the Treasurys estimation of the gross amount the UK contributed to the EU last year, which was £17.8bn, or £342m a week.

 

 

 

Of course you also need to take into account the u k's rebate for the huge disparity of the cap that Maggie thatcher won for the u k. That used to be 7 billion per year, it's now down to 4.5 at the last count because brown gave it back. don't know what the heck for, do you?

 

foto of the said bus: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2016/may/23/does-the-eu-really-cost-the-uk-350m-a-week

Oh dear Barry Denile ,denile I say again the public were duped its bulkshit we make 99% of our laws not Europe another lie to con the people and it's looking bad for this government who is increasing our national debht daily austerity hasn't worked so when's it's cheap to borrow invest in our infrastructure to generate, prisons the NHS the list is as long as your arm all failing and looking increasingly vunrable .

 

Austerity has contributed to low growth let's see if this chancellor has balls , or even better replaced by John Travolta ?sorry Ed balls ?

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Oh dear Barry Denile ,denile I say again the public were duped its bulkshit we make 99% of our laws not Europe another lie to con the people and it's looking bad for this government who is increasing our national debht daily austerity hasn't worked so when's it's cheap to borrow invest in our infrastructure to generate, prisons the NHS the list is as long as your arm all failing and looking increasingly vunrable .

 

Austerity has contributed to low growth let's see if this chancellor has balls , or even better replaced by John Travolta sorry Ed balls

 

 

here you go b c, have you got advice for this guy while he's over there working for the u k's future? Anything positive or do you intimate he has to go a begging for forgiveness

 

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/david-davis-off-to-europe-to-establish-positive-links-with-brexit-negotiators-11364114747613

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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here you go b c, have you got advice for this guy while he's over there working for the u k's future? Anything positive or do you intimate he has to go a begging for forgiveness

 

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/david-davis-off-to-europe-to-establish-positive-links-with-brexit-negotiators-11364114747613

"Officials in Brussels described the meeting between Mr Barnier and Mr Davis as a "courtesy coffee" and said that negotiations on Brexit could not begin until Article 50 had been triggered.

A European Commission spokesman said: "Michel Barnier had a courtesy coffee today with Mr David Davis, at his request, to re-establish contact. They confirmed that there can be no negotiations before notification."

Advice? Don't spoil your cuppa coffee by putting milk or cream in it. I hope he enjoys his continental coffe more than Maggi Maggie May enjoyed her Modi Madras..

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"Officials in Brussels described the meeting between Mr Barnier and Mr Davis as a "courtesy coffee" and said that negotiations on Brexit could not begin until Article 50 had been triggered.

A European Commission spokesman said: "Michel Barnier had a courtesy coffee today with Mr David Davis, at his request, to re-establish contact. They confirmed that there can be no negotiations before notification."

Advice? Don't spoil your cuppa coffee by putting milk or cream in it. I hope he enjoys his continental coffe more than Maggi Maggie May enjoyed her Modi Madras..

Yer right, so the pair of them met up for a coffee.

 

I met an architect in a café last week, at least she had beans on toast. and no transport costs like planes or trains.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Yer right, so the pair of them met up for a coffee.

 

I met an architect in a café last week, at least she had beans on toast. and no transport costs like planes or trains.

I'm surprised he didn't ask you to accompany him on his little sojurn Barry, you having such expertises on the topic. Edited by corydoras

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Brexit is turning into a disaster for the uk pound smashed to bits I voted in but for all the British public who voted in or out let's hope it works out ok That's to be decided some very angry people being dooped could surface .

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Brexit is turning into a disaster for the uk pound smashed to bits I voted in but for all the British public who voted in or out let's hope it works out ok That's to be decided some very angry people being dooped could surface .

 

 

Really b c how come you miss all the goodies and keep within your doom and gloom planet?

 

have you seen morrisons offering petrol at 99p

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I'm surprised he didn't ask you to accompany him on his little sojurn Barry, you having such expertises on the topic.

 

I was going to say sarcasm is the lowest form............................ however your not even that good at that are you.

 

Now tell us all why the e u is so good for the u k, bet you can't. Second thoughts, I know you can't.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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"Officials in Brussels described the meeting between Mr Barnier and Mr Davis as a "courtesy coffee" and said that negotiations on Brexit could not begin until Article 50 had been triggered.

A European Commission spokesman said: "Michel Barnier had a courtesy coffee today with Mr David Davis, at his request, to re-establish contact. They confirmed that there can be no negotiations before notification."

Advice? Don't spoil your cuppa coffee by putting milk or cream in it. I hope he enjoys his continental coffe more than Maggi Maggie May enjoyed her Modi Madras..

 

 

Bit more than coffee being drunk, Have you seen the wittering's from the so called e u chief negotiator, he's an abject bonkers nutcase. The question I have is why should the u k even bother 'negotiating' with this tax payers waste of space it will come to nothing as the guy is as intransigent as his burocratic tax payer fed governors.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38061035

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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And in the meantime where the e u is insistent that no negotiations on brexit can take place. Back street peddlers within the u k are beavering away to put a block on the electorates decision to leave the e u. Democracy in inaction.

 

The Strasbourg meeting comes as it was reported that a bid to block Brexit by Blairite former Cabinet ministers is being offered financial backing by Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Group.

A memo written by ex-health secretary Alan Milburn, a key ally of former prime minister Tony Blair, reveals the anti-Brexit organisation has reached an advanced stage of development, and received an offer of at least £25,000 from Virgin, The Independent claims.

A range of major business and communications organisations have given the group extensive backing and help, with leading PR firm Freuds advising on the group's marketing.

Former deputy PM Nick Clegg, leading Labour Remain campaigner Chuka Umunna, and celebrities, such as Bob Geldof, are believed been in contact with the group, according to the report.

The email says: "We have been beavering away over the last few months to get a Europe campaign up and running. I'm pleased to say that substantial progress has been made.

"I have met the Freuds team several times and we are making good progress. I have been in discussions with an excellent potential CEO to lead the campaign.

"Virgin ... are keen to help. Since we last spoke [they] have offered a further £25k, plus bigger office space, help with legal advice and a possible secondment.

"I have held discussions with Stronger In, Chuka Umunna, a new organisation called Common Ground, Bob Geldof and a number of senior politicians across the party spectrum."

The group has funding or more than £1 million in pledged donations, according to the report, and is backed by Blairite former ministers John Hutton and Douglas Alexander, and former Tory health secretary Stephen Dorrell.

The group will launch in the New Year and hopes to force a second referendum, according to the report.

A Virgin spokesman told The Independent: "Since the EU referendum, Virgin has not made any payments to any Brexit campaign or organisation.

"It is well known that Richard supported the Remain campaign before the referendum, and as a result people involved in all sides of the debate are interested in Virgin's views on Brexit and its impact on business. Virgin is interested in engaging with different organisations to understand the impact Brexit will have on the UK."

Mr Blair is believed to want to return to the political frontline to fight Brexit, but he is not directly involved with the new organisation.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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