E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[corydoras]

Whatever. My point is that we are the eight largest economy in the world. You can kiss goodbye to that if we leave the EU. Many international companies will close down their offices and manufacturing plants here because the only reason they are here is so that they have a presence in the EU. The Irish must be waxing their carrots big style at the thought Brexit.

Edited April 19, 2016 by corydoras

[barry luxton]

I don't really give a fook me. I don't have a mortgage and if it all goes tits up I can pull my ripcord and parachute into France. I can see another ERM like run on the pound and a lot of people losing their jobs and having their houses repossessed.

bye bye

 

take the rubbish cap and the cfp with you, and tell them schengan is a fail as well.

 

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/jean-claude-juncker-admits-eu-interferes-too-much-11364052975250

 

And this guy is what the e u of today is all about, control, you can if you like. perhaps you need a unelected socialist nightmare federal super state controller crutch like him

 

you want to look at unemployment look at 40% unemployment of the youth in the capital of Brussels. It's so disaffected all that the e u is achieving there is poison.

 

errm cheering in the euro parliament, surely not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qexJ9Rx-oy4

Edited April 20, 2016 by barry luxton

[Sportsman]

I love the way that we get the same Farage speech rolled out every time.

Was it the only one he made?

[gozzer]

If staying in offers such a great future for us, then why do we need the 'scare' tactics? I've heard everything from losing cheap fags, to a global economic melt down, as a result of an out vote.

I saw a headline in one on-line article saying that 'Planet X could collide with earth', my first thought was that it was just another possible consequence of us leaving the EU, put out by Cameron etc.

 

It seems to me that they can't provide any positives for a future in the EU, because it won't be the same in 5, 10, or more years. It's expanding geographically, taking in more people, more differing cultures, more different levels of economic status, too many, and too fast. The countries already in the EU are so diverse that they struggle to coexist politically/culturally, and I believe it will only get worse.

Multiculturalism, can be a fantastic thing, but it needs to happen gradually, over a long time, so people can accept it, and adapt to it. Try to impose it quickly, and you have trouble.

That's just one facet of the problem I can see, there are many more that trouble me, and few bode well for the future within the EU, both in it's present, and probable future form, as I see it.

 

John.

[corydoras]

If staying in offers such a great future for us, then why do we need the 'scare' tactics? I've heard everything from losing cheap fags, to a global economic melt down, as a result of an out vote.

I saw a headline in one on-line article saying that 'Planet X could collide with earth', my first thought was that it was just another possible consequence of us leaving the EU, put out by Cameron etc.

 

It seems to me that they can't provide any positives for a future in the EU, because it won't be the same in 5, 10, or more years. It's expanding geographically, taking in more people, more differing cultures, more different levels of economic status, too many, and too fast. The countries already in the EU are so diverse that they struggle to coexist politically/culturally, and I believe it will only get worse.

Multiculturalism, can be a fantastic thing, but it needs to happen gradually, over a long time, so people can accept it, and adapt to it. Try to impose it quickly, and you have trouble.

That's just one facet of the problem I can see, there are many more that trouble me, and few bode well for the future within the EU, both in it's present, and probable future form, as I see it.

 

John.

I think you should be scared. If I was a young person paying my first mortgage I'd be sh!tting myself.

 

Mullticulturalism is not an EU policy my friend, it's a UK one. No multiculturalsim in France.

Edited April 20, 2016 by corydoras

[corydoras]

bye bye

 

take the rubbish cap and the cfp with you, and tell them schengan is a fail as well.

 

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/jean-claude-juncker-admits-eu-interferes-too-much-11364052975250

 

And this guy is what the e u of today is all about, control, you can if you like. perhaps you need a unelected socialist nightmare federal super state controller crutch like him

 

you want to look at unemployment look at 40% unemployment of the youth in the capital of Brussels. It's so disaffected all that the e u is achieving there is poison.

 

errm cheering in the euro parliament, surely not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qexJ9Rx-oy4

What are you gonna do if it all goes tits up mate? Perhaps you know what this "Free trade Zone" that Gove prattled about is? What are the countries we are going to have free trade with after a Brexit Barry?

[corydoras]

bye bye

 

take the rubbish cap and the cfp with you, and tell them schengan is a fail as well.

 

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/jean-claude-juncker-admits-eu-interferes-too-much-11364052975250

 

And this guy is what the e u of today is all about, control, you can if you like. perhaps you need a unelected socialist nightmare federal super state controller crutch like him

 

you want to look at unemployment look at 40% unemployment of the youth in the capital of Brussels. It's so disaffected all that the e u is achieving there is poison.

 

errm cheering in the euro parliament, surely not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qexJ9Rx-oy4

It's all about the economy Barry, but you don't give a damn about the economy.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36087583

[Steve Walker]

I think Juncker has a bit of a twitchy bum over the Brexit risk;

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36087022

[Sportsman]

I am sure that Brexit would have a profound effect on the EU and it would certainly have a profound effect on the UK.

Whether either of those effects turn out to be for better or worse remains to be seen.

[gozzer]

I think you should be scared. If I was a young person paying my first mortgage I'd be sh!tting myself.

 

Mullticulturalism is not an EU policy my friend, it's a UK one. No multiculturalsim in France.

 

I know very few young people who can actually afford a mortgage, Cory, many are struggling to rent and have to share, or stay in the family home.

 

Multiculturalism may not be a written policy of the EU, but it's a fact of life within it, and will become more so as time goes on. The EU consists of more than just France, there are 26 other countries involved, soon likely to be more. Each having different values, cultures, beliefs, to a greater or lesser degree. With the freedom to roam, they will take those with them, and hoping that they can all live in peace, and work together for the betterment of all, is just too much for me to believe. If that isn't classed as an attempt at multiculturalism, then I've got the wrong definition.

 

John.

 

PS. Just read the link in Steves post, the phrases, 'no **** Sherlock' and something about possible 'stable doors', spring to mind.

Edited April 20, 2016 by gozzer