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indeed go check any posting I have made. never have I claimed or implied someone is a troller if they go for the ball as opposed to the player.

 

So I agree with you a troller is not someone who argues the argument.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Smt, on 19 Nov 2017 - 07:35, said:

Barry.

Just because someone disagrees with you does not make them a troll.

Try reading these two authoritative articles.

The first concerns the EU's view that as the UK wants to leave the single market the best deal that can be achieved is a Canada style arrangement. I.e no special deal like the Express has told you can be achieved (did I mention the paper lies to you?). May has already admitted that this will be far worse for the UK that our current arrangement. So, hello poverty.

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-trade-barnier-dashes-britains-hopes-of-something-better-than-canada-deal/

And the other one concerns the effect on the UK's fishing industry (the sort of thing that Grimsby recently woke up to). There is no positive result for UK the independents. I'd be interested on the view of the Scallop guy here, although I suspect he already knows that Brexit is likely to destroy his livelihood.

http://neweconomics.org/2017/11/not-in-the-same-boat/

 

 

 

 

 

I have posted this item previously where it is ignored that the u k play by the rules and it's also not acceptable. And please don't post up the Grimsby awakening where I guy has posted that we need to remain due to the fact that he imports 90% of his fish products to process. That has already been discounted by others in Grimsby who disagree with him.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/614221/British-fisherman-chased-English-Channel-French

 

and your Grimsby example is slightly misleading as Grimsby certainly imports the majority of it's fish, Iceland being the main exporter, Norway gets a mention and correct me if I'm wrong they aren't in the e u. So the guy who told all that 90% of the fish imports come from the e u was exaggerating.

 

comment from an Icelandic university on 'joining the e u'.

 

Joining the EU, would mean hadling over the responsibility for fishery to EU. This would properly mean that EU’s fishing fleet would be allowed to fish all fish leaving the ocean outside Iceland emptying the habitat. This is actually what happened to New Foundland when they joined Canada. Iceland would therefore be deprived of its inexhaustible source of wealth.

Is it possible that the EU would be that stupid? Yes! So far the EU has shown itself incapable of managing its own fish resources.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Farmers can't recruit crop pickers and now even the Home Office is having to recruit East Europeans to manage Brexit. You couldn't make it up.

 

You have to laugh or you'd cry.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/19/home-office-admits-its-struggling-to-recruit-staff-to-register-eu-nationals?

 

Its just laughable when the crunch comes with brexit just watch them run for cover like rats up a drainpipe,

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Smt, on 20 Nov 2017 - 10:57, said:

Farmers can't recruit crop pickers, the National Health can't recruit nurse and now even the Home Office is having to recruit East Europeans to manage Brexit. You couldn't make it up.

 

You have to laugh or you'd cry. What have we done?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/19/home-office-admits-its-struggling-to-recruit-staff-to-register-eu-nationals?

 

 

hahahaha, got that abundantly wrong didn't you, this came from b c's rag, the times:

 

quote:

 

The number of EU citizens working in Britain rose to a record high in the year after the Brexit referendum, official figures revealed yesterday.

Despite fears of a so-called Brexodus, 2.37 million migrants from EU states were employed between July and September, an increase of 112,000 on the same period last year.

After an initial drop in the three months after the vote in June 2016, the number of EU citizens employed has risen in every quarter this year.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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big_cod, on 20 Nov 2017 - 15:20, said:

Brexit just gets worse by the day for Britain and we still March towards the edge .

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-passporting-rights-banks-financial-services-michel-barnier-speech-talks-david-davis-a8064836.html

 

pounds up b c, yes I know it's an express article, however the express doesn't put works into poor old merkies mouth, you would have to agree, don't know about may teetering, she certainly is.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/882084/merkel-latest-euro-plunge-germany-crisis-market-ucertainty

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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pounds up b c, yes I know it's an express article, however the express doesn't put works into poor old merkies mouth, you would have to agree, don't know about may teetering, she certainly is.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/882084/merkel-latest-euro-plunge-germany-crisis-market-ucertainty

Pound up ? come on be serious 1.12 to 1.13 a long long way to go before before it gets to post brexit value .

 

Just the beginning 1000 jobs gone as Teresa May said brexit means brexit David Davis who by the look of things hasn't a clue he said this wouldnt happen the brexit team for Britain seem to be out of there depth .

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/20/london-loses-european-medicines-agency-amsterdam-brexit-relocation

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big_cod, on 20 Nov 2017 - 20:35, said:

Pound up come on be serious 1.12 to 1.13 a long long way to go before before it gets to post brexit value .

 

Just the beginning 1000 jobs gone as Teresa May said brexit means brexit David Davis who by the look of things hasn't a clue he said this wouldnt happen the brexit team for Britain seem to be out of there depth .

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/20/london-loses-european-medicines-agency-amsterdam-brexit-relocation

 

 

quote:

The number of EU citizens working in Britain rose to a record high in the year after the Brexit referendum, official figures revealed yesterday.

Despite fears of a so-called Brexodus, 2.37 million migrants from EU states were employed between July and September, an increase of 112,000 on the same period last year.

 

 

Errrrmmmmm, bit one sided the guardian rag isn't it b c? How come your other rag thought it would be an idea to post the quote above? Did you not read it, or did you ignore it as it doesn't fit in with your despondency?

 

What about the pound, well what about the euro? You also don't take into account the pound was overvalued before brexit did you? and in addition you don't take into account the ecb pumping in paper euro's to the tune of 60 billion per month for the last two years, did you?

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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quote:

The number of EU citizens working in Britain rose to a record high in the year after the Brexit referendum, official figures revealed yesterday.

Despite fears of a so-called Brexodus, 2.37 million migrants from EU states were employed between July and September, an increase of 112,000 on the same period last year.

 

 

Errrrmmmmm, bit one sided the guardian rag isn't it b c? How come your other rag thought it would be an idea to post the quote above? Did you not read it, or did you ignore it as it doesn't fit in with your despondency?

 

What about the pound, well what about the euro? You also don't take into account the pound was overvalued before brexit did you? and in addition you don't take into account the ecb pumping in paper euro's to the tune of 60 billion per month for the last two years, did you?

Barry pound being over valued come on barry so the exact day of the referendum it crashes by 25% no barry it has devalued solely because of brexit no other reason and it still continues to be so which ever way brexit turns out all the pointers apart from what you read in the brexitexpress shows we are in for one hell of a bumpy ride .

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Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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big_cod, on 21 Nov 2017 - 18:50, said:

........................................................................................................... all the pointers apart from what you read in the brexitexpress shows we are in for one hell of a bumpy ride .

 

 

but but but, you yet again miss the pointer in your times rag that states a record number of e u mainland guys have come over to work since the brexit out vote. Why are you in denial.

 

Are you hoping that our phil will give you some comfort today to carry on with your brexit misery? what's it going to be, austerity (you will be jumping up and down spitting nails) or expansion (you'll be jumping up and down spitting nails at the waste of tax payers money). :cry:

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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