E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[barry luxton]

 

big_cod, on 02 Dec 2017 - 09:56, said:

Barry keep reading the brexit express propaganda now in real world discards a very bad but in a lot cases discards come about purposely.

If you take a look at Peterhead fish market its full of big cod now you cant tell me they dont catch smaller cod say upto 5 lb where do they go straight back over the side what a waste its goes on every day tons of them discarded because the big cod bring a bigger price on the market wrong aint it .

 

 

 

The EU have done there best to try and protect stocks the crap I hear specially in express is just sheer brexit properganda remember the multi million pound scam in Peterhead with mackerel and herring 1000s of tons of over quota fish sent through a secret pipeline away at the fish market oh yes bas stop believing all that crap they print in the express its just laughable .

 

Aware of high grading b c. E u ain't doing too good a management job in getting rid of it then?

 

Tell me when is the time that reality kicks in and you begin to understand that the e u's cfp is broke and no amount of fiddling will ever make it fit for purpose? Show us the link with Peterhead market, full of these big cod, when in reality your anglers can at best manage to catch codling up to 7lb and win your prestigious autumn cod competition with it. Well done to Richard cope's boat btw.

 

Is it the case that there's anglers then there's anglers or is there something fundamentally wrong, more than your local spat with the draggers. Or are you claiming still that it's those that's cleared out the sea bed and all the fish that live in it. For your information there was very little summer cod caught on the south coast, they never arrived on the wrecks and the bass boat fishery, never happened due to e u restrictions, no longer a viable angler's fishery. French cod quota in the channel 70% of all the tac btw, year on year. The bream fishing on the south coast this year, brilliant, even with TAT's involvement local to sussex to ensure restrictions both commercially and angler related. Thank goodness they never poked their nose in off Portland.

 

That secret pipeline and weighing station you speak of, that was years ago, they got caught and part of the penalty was the amount landed illegally was taken off quota issued.

Edited December 3, 2017 by barry luxton

[big_cod]

 

Aware of high grading b c. E u ain't doing too good a management job in getting rid of it then?

 

Tell me when is the time that reality kicks in and you begin to understand that the e u's cfp is broke and no amount of fiddling will ever make it fit for purpose? Show us the link with Peterhead market, full of these big cod, when in reality your anglers can at best manage to catch codling up to 7lb and win your prestigious autumn cod competition with it. Well done to Richard cope's boat btw.

 

Is it the case that there's anglers then there's anglers or is there something fundamentally wrong, more than your local spat with the draggers. Or are you claiming still that it's those that's cleared out the sea bed and all the fish that live in it. For your information there was very little summer cod caught on the south coast, they never arrived on the wrecks and the bass boat fishery, never happened due to e u restrictions, no longer a viable angler's fishery. French cod quota in the channel 70% of all the tac btw, year on year. The bream fishing on the south coast this year, brilliant, even with TAT's involvement local to sussex to ensure restrictions both commercially and angler related. Thank goodness they never poked their nose in off Portland.

 

That secret pipeline and weighing station you speak of, that was years ago, they got caught and part of the penalty was the amount landed illegally was taken off quota issued.

You are aware of high grading you mean selective grading and you actually think it will stop when or if we do exit the EU sorry Barry it will probably get worse how do think it will stop when we exit explain .

 

And now you realise a shortage of mature cod hurray yahoo the penny has dropped just like I have been telling you the grounds of this coast which did hold many mature cod has been destroyed by scalloping stacks of smaller cod though its panning out exactly as we said it would but its very worrying as we have now lost the breeding stock all down to Dredgeing and there habitat been destroyed if somebody knocked your house down you aint going to sit in a pile of rubble your going to take off I just cannot see how you just dont get it your a funny lad bas .

Edited December 3, 2017 by big_cod

[barry luxton]

big_cod, on 03 Dec 2017 - 12:05, said:

You are aware of high grading you mean selective grading and you actually think it will stop when or if we do exit the EU sorry Barry it will probably get worse how do think it will stop when we exit explain .

 

And now you realise a shortage of mature cod hurray yahoo the penny has dropped just like I have been telling you the grounds of this coast which did hold many mature cod has been destroyed by scalloping stacks of smaller cod though its panning out exactly as we said it would but its very worrying as we have now lost the breeding stock all down to Dredgeing and there habitat been destroyed if somebody knocked your house down you aint going to sit in a pile of rubble your going to take off I just cannot see how you just dont get it your a funny lad bas .

more cobblers from you b c ,to say the ground has been cleared and there's no cod because of the scallopers you are going need to provide detail of the area in question, you can't because there is no detail stating massive areas of the north sea have been flattened to support your argument, again you can't because it's a local spat where even you have asked for the scallop boats to be moved outside of the ifca area, haven't you. So if that's the case where are the facts that other areas of the north sea have been decimated?

 

While you at squaring a round hole, tell me why the cod in the channel migrate west to bread, are you also telling me that the scallopers have been at it down south?

 

Instead of whinging about it on here, how about sending off your concerns to u k mp's, ten days to formulate a response. Help yourself, looking forward to your letter, you can copy it here if you like for all to see, you won't though will you?

 

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To help them with their investigation, they'd like to hear from you.

The Committee are particularly interested in these questions:

1. What are the most important things that the Government need to look at when thinking about UK fisheries?

2. What are the challenges and opportunities that UK fisheries will face after the UK leaves the European Union, Common Fisheries Policy and London Fisheries Convention?

3. What stock management objectives should the Government establish in order to achieve the right balance between the interests of seafood consumers, fishers, seafood processors and the environment?

4. What trade policy objectives should the Government establish in order to achieve the right balance between the interests of consumers, fishers, seafood processors, and the environment?

5. How effective are the Government's arrangements for representing the interests of the UK's constituent nations within the UK's negotiations for fisheries?

You can find out more, including how to send in your views, here:

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We’re expecting the Government to publish the Fisheries Bill in the new year. That’s the draft law that will control access to the UK’s waters and set fishing quotas once the UK has left the EU. The Committee wants to finish its work before that Bill is published. The sooner the Committee receives your views, the easier it is for them to use it in their investigation. They can only accept submissions until 13 December.

[big_cod]

more cobblers from you b c ,to say the ground has been cleared and there's no cod because of the scallopers you are going need to provide detail of the area in question, you can't because there is no detail stating massive areas of the north sea have been flattened to support your argument, again you can't because it's a local spat where even you have asked for the scallop boats to be moved outside of the ifca area, haven't you. So if that's the case where are the facts that other areas of the north sea have been decimated?

 

While you at squaring a round hole, tell me why the cod in the channel migrate west to bread, are you also telling me that the scallopers have been at it down south?

 

Instead of whinging about it on here, how about sending off your concerns to u k mp's, ten days to formulate a response. Help yourself, looking forward to your letter, you can copy it here if you like for all to see, you won't though will you?

Other parliamentary business

 

▼MPs want to hear your views on fisheries

 

A group of MPs called the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee are investigating how possible changes to the fisheries and seafood trading arrangements between the UK and the EU will affect fishers, seafood processors, consumers, coastal communities and the environment.

To help them with their investigation, they'd like to hear from you.

The Committee are particularly interested in these questions:

1. What are the most important things that the Government need to look at when thinking about UK fisheries?

2. What are the challenges and opportunities that UK fisheries will face after the UK leaves the European Union, Common Fisheries Policy and London Fisheries Convention?

3. What stock management objectives should the Government establish in order to achieve the right balance between the interests of seafood consumers, fishers, seafood processors and the environment?

4. What trade policy objectives should the Government establish in order to achieve the right balance between the interests of consumers, fishers, seafood processors, and the environment?

5. How effective are the Government's arrangements for representing the interests of the UK's constituent nations within the UK's negotiations for fisheries?

You can find out more, including how to send in your views, here:

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/environment-food-and-rural-affairs-committee/inquiries/parliament-2017/fisheries-17-19/

Were expecting the Government to publish the Fisheries Bill in the new year. Thats the draft law that will control access to the UKs waters and set fishing quotas once the UK has left the EU. The Committee wants to finish its work before that Bill is published. The sooner the Committee receives your views, the easier it is for them to use it in their investigation. They can only accept submissions until 13 December.

Your still in denial bas with Dredgeing I never said there was no cod infact this winter has been very good with stacks of smaller cod its a lack of larger fish which-at the end of day are your breeding stock if gone and if there is no habit for them they aint going to be there the thing is barry when you have around 45,000 hours sea time looking at the seabed day in day out and the equipment where you can blow up just the first 2 Metres of the seabed onto a 12 screen it give you an excellent view of the bottom and thats in practically any depth looking at the sea bed , you then tend to see difference in just whats happening out there and the years I have fished at sea you knew or did know the ground like the back of your hand ,

 

Now if all the wrecks in the channel disappeared would they be any fish there no they wouldnt be exactly the same with reefs especially with the larger fish scallop Dredgeing has flattened the reefs off the Yorkshire coast and as for dredgeing in channel why do you think they have been up here they have trashed it down your way .

 

And as for trying to get something done about it thats been going on for 3 year locals conservative MP , fisheries minister but its money ,money money barry that appears to be more important than the marine environment short term gain for massive long term damage .

Edited December 4, 2017 by big_cod

[big_cod]

The brexit Secretary David David admits the government have done no assessments on the affects of brexit not one single thing on any aspects to do with any part of the uk economy and its affects absolutely incredible .

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-live-updates-latest-uk-pmqs-theresa-may-northern-ireland-dup-border-david-davis-a8094386.html

Edited December 6, 2017 by big_cod

[corydoras]

The brexit Secretary David David admits the government have done no assessments on the affects of brexit not one single thing on any aspects to do with any part of the uk economy and its affects absolutely incredible .

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-live-updates-latest-uk-pmqs-theresa-may-northern-ireland-dup-border-david-davis-a8094386.html

In any industry I have worked in that would be classed as gross misconduct.

[big_cod]

In any industry I have worked in that would be classed as gross misconduct.

Absolutely I am shocked to say we are about to take such hugh leap for Britain its looking like he has been kidding a few people with this its worrying to say the least and will shock a lot of people he looks past the written warning stage .

Edited December 6, 2017 by big_cod

[barry luxton]

I feel so very very sad for you b c that your shocked. It must be hell for you, go have a sit down and take some pills.

 

Write to your m p and complain if it will help.

 

Still at least he will no longer be hiding all those papers that don't exist. And as such the speaker of the commons can't smack his hand for being naughty.

[barry luxton]

Smt, on 06 Dec 2017 - 19:02, said:

What a complete bloody shambles.

The lazy turd Davis never prepared any documents on the effect Brexit would have on any UK industry sector and then he lied to parliament about it and instead hashed up some tripe in the three weeks he was given to deliver them.

Un*******believable.

You have to ask why he never commissioned the studies. You'd think it would be very important that they knew the likely effect of Brexit on our economy so it could inform the deal they required from the EU.

So the question is obviously 'why didn't they commission the studies'?

And after a while the answer becomes blindingly obvious. They didn't commission the impact assessments because they knew they'd be unremittingly bad and that after receiving them they'd not be able to justify continuing with Brexit.

But they want Brexit so badly that they decided not to commission the reports, lie about it and carry on anyway.

That is an incredible dereliction of duty... and here we are talking about the most important negotiations since the second world war!

For this alone the man deserves to be hung drawn and quartered.

But he's committed an offence by lying to parliament so will be fired instead.

Good riddance to the idiot....

Except we are living through the strangest of times, when many people are convinced black is white..... so he probably won't be.

 

 

 

 

 

Ohhh dear, do you fancy moving over onto the e u mainland as it might just be your nirvana.

 

anyway this might help you understand what is on offer for the likes of corbyn to kick around until he gets board. Quote from today:

 

There were no 58 impact assessments, there were 800 pages of sectorial analysis, said Mrs May, in a tone suggesting they were far too boring for MPs to worry about.

Corbyn asks: "Do they exist, or don’t they?"

Mr Corbyn called for a fully itemised account of the Brexit divorce bill. Not a chance, said Mrs May, because "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" in Brussels. "The only hard border", she said in today's scripted joke, "is right down the middle of the Labour Party".

Edited December 6, 2017 by barry luxton

[corydoras]

Smt, on 06 Dec 2017 - 19:02, said:

What a complete bloody shambles.

 

The lazy turd Davis never prepared any documents on the effect Brexit would have on any UK industry sector and then he lied to parliament about it and instead hashed up some tripe in the three weeks he was given to deliver them.

 

Un*******believable.

 

You have to ask why he never commissioned the studies. You'd think it would be very important that they knew the likely effect of Brexit on our economy so it could inform the deal they required from the EU.

 

So the question is obviously 'why didn't they commission the studies'?

 

And after a while the answer becomes blindingly obvious. They didn't commission the impact assessments because they knew they'd be unremittingly bad and that after receiving them they'd not be able to justify continuing with Brexit.

 

But they want Brexit so badly that they decided not to commission the reports, lie about it and carry on anyway.

 

That is an incredible dereliction of duty... and here we are talking about the most important negotiations since the second world war!

 

For this alone the man deserves to be hung drawn and quartered.

 

But he's committed an offence by lying to parliament so will be fired instead.

 

Good riddance to the idiot....

 

Except we are living through the strangest of times, when many people are convinced black is white..... so he probably won't be.

 

 

 

 

 

Ohhh dear, do you fancy moving over onto the e u mainland as it might just be your nirvana.

 

anyway this might help you understand what is on offer for the likes of corbyn to kick around until he gets board. Quote from today:

 

There were no 58 impact assessments, there were 800 pages of sectorial analysis, said Mrs May, in a tone suggesting they were far too boring for MPs to worry about.

Corbyn asks: "Do they exist, or don’t they?"

Mr Corbyn called for a fully itemised account of the Brexit divorce bill. Not a chance, said Mrs May, because "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" in Brussels. "The only hard border", she said in today's scripted joke, "is right down the middle of the Labour Party".

It would be if we could have a payout like your buddy Nigel will get.

 

You could buy a nice little pad in Hamburg and live really well on that lot.