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This thread's being going on as long as BREXIT itself.

 

Time to draw a line under both now after 862 Pages!!!!

 

As much as your opinions on this are very much appreciated............ :giveup:

 

Or could there be 6 Month extension??

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This thread's being going on as long as BREXIT itself.

 

Time to draw a line under both now after 862 Pages!!!!

 

As much as your opinions on this are very much appreciated............ :giveup:

 

 

I stopped contributing to this topic quite some time ago as opinions are so completely entrenched, it's about as bad as being in the EU.

 

That, however is going to get worse, just take a look below at what else is in the Lisbon Treaty:-

 

1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.

2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.

3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.

4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled - but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)

5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.

6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.

7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.

8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.

9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.

10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights

11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights

12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty

13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation

14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent

15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy

16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them

17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths

18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc

19: The UK loses control of its judicial system

20: The UK loses control of its international policy

21: The UK loses full control of its national policy

22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.

23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program

24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction

25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty

26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020

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This thread's being going on as long as BREXIT itself.

 

Time to draw a line under both now after 862 Pages!!!!

 

As much as your opinions on this are very much appreciated............ :giveup:

 

Or could there be 6 Month extension??

 

 

Got to agree with you on this Martin.

 

Sick to death of the same rubbish. Oh and the " occasional " childish petty name calling, and pure bile posted.

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Mum he said petty! Alls fine both it and bile ok ,generally the only words that can hurt you is some bloke saying fire at a firing squad and a judge with a black bit of cloth on his head!

If you cant handle words a forumn which in the main is full of them is the last place to be

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

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I stopped contributing to this topic quite some time ago as opinions are so completely entrenched, it's about as bad as being in the EU.

 

That, however is going to get worse, just take a look below at what else is in the Lisbon Treaty:-

 

1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.

2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.

3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.

4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled - but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)

5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.

6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.

7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.

8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.

9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.

10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights

11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights

12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty

13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation

14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent

15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy

16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them

17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths

18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc

19: The UK loses control of its judicial system

20: The UK loses control of its international policy

21: The UK loses full control of its national policy

22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.

23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program

24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction

25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty

26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020

 

That's a rather suspect looking list.

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GET YOUR CASH OUT PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS NOTES ONLY !!!! The black knight arises.

 

But UKIP come out in defiance saying its all about Nigel now where I heard that before its worse than Torys and labour at loggerheads.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47907350

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All,

 

I thought wow - Theres a lot wrong with this viral list about the Lisbon Treaty

https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-list-about-lisbon-treaty-wrong/

 

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Misleading claims never cant be !!! Now get your new passport but no mention on the front of the European Union on it now I know Brexit was orchestrated by the Torys but arent they being a little premature taking it of our passports as we havent left yet and still enjoy all the benefits of being a member of the EU millions and millions travel to the EU either on holiday or buisness this looks like a Chris Grayling dumb idea he must have a few doubles but nothing really surprises me with this lot . Edited by big_cod

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Misleading claims never cant be !!! Now get your new passport but no mention on the front of the European Union on it now I know Brexit was orchestrated by the Torys but arent they being a little premature taking it of our passports as we havent left yet and still enjoy all the benefits of being a member of the EU millions and millions travel to the EU either on holiday or buisness this looks like a Chris Grayling dumb idea he must have a few doubles but nothing really surprises me with this lot .

Millions travel to the US every year but were not the 51st state under control of the senate!

Was brexit orchestrated by the tories ? I thought your mate Farage orchestrated it ,if people need to be so firmly under the thumb of the EU move over to it and enjoy your freedom .

Edited by chesters1

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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Millions travel to the US every year but were not the 51st state under control of the senate!

Was brexit orchestrated by the tories ? I thought your mate Farage orchestrated it ,if people need to be so firmly under the thumb of the EU move over to it and enjoy your freedom .

The ERG the provisional wing of the Tory party got there way with Cameron and UKIP put the Willys up the Torys thinking they were going to lose seats to them so Camerons backside collapsed and agreed a referendum but its looking like they are all going to fall on there own swords. Edited by big_cod

http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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