E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[big_cod]

Are an expert in the marine environment you do make Me laughter Scotland has the gulf steam coming up the west cost the channel has temperatures way above our section of North Sea .

This part of the east coast has  deep water close by keeping the temperature lower than other parts of U.K. why so many cod and literally no conger here in this area south coast completely the opposite  the penny dropped yet doesn’t looks  like it hasn’t I  am afraid  you will never learn .

And will brexit be successful for the fishing industry it isn’t what I am  hearing a lot wishing  they hadn’t voted brexit I massive can of worms is about to be unleashed on the fishing industry , and like I told you nothing will change all this next year so Johnson blurts his lies get brexit done when exactly will all that be finalised he lies constantly to the gullible and they swallow it every single day and fishing is only a tiny part of the puzzle .
 

[barry luxton]

oven ready W A Brexit bill going in the microwave today.

Four amendments will be debated.

what's the chances of miller, the wasp chewer or big cod causing any more dithering, delay or weakening of the bill, I have to ask.

[barry luxton]

6 minutes ago, big_cod said:

Are an expert in the marine environment you do make Me laughter Scotland has the gulf steam coming up the west cost the channel has temperatures way above our section of North Sea .

This part of the east coast has  deep water close by keeping the temperature lower than other parts of U.K. why so many cod and literally no conger here in this area south coast completely the opposite  the penny dropped yet doesn’t looks  like it hasn’t I  am afraid  you will never learn .

And will brexit be successful for the fishing industry it isn’t what I am  hearing a lot wishing  they hadn’t voted brexit I massive can of worms is about to be unleashed on the fishing industry , and like I told you nothing will change all this next year so Johnson blurts his lies get brexit done when exactly will all that be finalised he lies constantly to the gullible and they swallow it every single day and fishing is only a tiny part of the puzzle .
 

ahhh, off Portland, also has deep water around 300' four mile off, lots of conger, bull huss, bream, porbeagle and tope pay a visit, so your deep water assumption don't stack up.

 

And even now when Brexit is so close you claim that the brexiteers have changed their minds,  last weeks election doesn't agree with your assumption either. Are you claiming that they wish to remain within the c f p? What is this MASSIVE can of worms you are looking at, can you forewarn us exiteers of our mistake?

[Huge_Vitae]

Mr Seely

One thing that concerns folks on the Isle of Wight and the south coast is seeing super trawlers hoovering up 250 tonnes of fish a day off Shanklin and Eastbourne. Is not one of the great benefits of the Bill, our leaving the EU and our getting a new fisheries Bill that we will be able to stop super trawlers coming into our seas, which we are not allowed to do at the moment because of our membership of the EU?

Stephen Barclay

My hon. Friend is right. One of the key features of taking back control of our waters is this Parliament making those decisions for itself. One of the mysteries about Opposition Members is that those representing Scotland do not seem to have the self-confidence to take back those decision-making powers, but rather want to give them back to Europe.

[big_cod]

11 hours ago, Huge_Vitae said:

Mr Seely

One thing that concerns folks on the Isle of Wight and the south coast is seeing super trawlers hoovering up 250 tonnes of fish a day off Shanklin and Eastbourne. Is not one of the great benefits of the Bill, our leaving the EU and our getting a new fisheries Bill that we will be able to stop super trawlers coming into our seas, which we are not allowed to do at the moment because of our membership of the EU?

Stephen Barclay

My hon. Friend is right. One of the key features of taking back control of our waters is this Parliament making those decisions for itself. One of the mysteries about Opposition Members is that those representing Scotland do not seem to have the self-confidence to take back those decision-making powers, but rather want to give them back to Europe.

Super trawlers love that  phrase so what exactly are UK flag trawlers that  catch 500 ton of mackerel in one haul herring in similar numbers , mackerel now off the sustainable list no these aren’t foreign boats doing this they UK owned super trawlers sat right now   in Peterhead working only 3 months of the year making millions then tied  up for remaining 9 months no mention of this industrial fishing in the news laughable .

 

These boats landing over 1000 ton  at any one time can catch as much as 500 ton in one haul industrial fishing we are guilty of it as much as anybody else .These aren’t boats they are ships industrial fishing in the U.K. fishing industry.

 

https://fishingnews.co.uk/features/new-pathway-pd-165-starts-on-maatjes-herring/

https://fishingnews.co.uk/features/taits-fr-229-advanced-technology-on-new-fraserburgh-midwater-trawler-enhances-family-traditions/

 

Edited December 21, 2019 by big_cod

[big_cod]

20 hours ago, barry luxton said:

ahhh, off Portland, also has deep water around 300' four mile off, lots of conger, bull huss, bream, porbeagle and tope pay a visit, so your deep water assumption don't stack up.

 

And even now when Brexit is so close you claim that the brexiteers have changed their minds,  last weeks election doesn't agree with your assumption either. Are you claiming that they wish to remain within the c f p? What is this MASSIVE can of worms you are looking at, can you forewarn us exiteers of our mistake?

Oh dear Barry I thought you smarter than  that now what about dept water in the Caribbean  is it warm or is it cold just think about for half a second .

There a plume if cold water  off of our coast that gives us the cod numbers the futher north once go round Scotland you get heaps of sharks dogfish ,we get sharks but no in numbers and only when the herring  mackerel  turn up .Luce bay on west of Scotland  much further  north than here very little cod there deep water Gulf Stream penny dropped  yet like I told before but you didn’t listen very little conger  here WATER TO COLD

CFP more .

.https://www.dw.com/en/uk-fishing-industry-or-brexits-red-herrings/a-51418061

Edited December 21, 2019 by big_cod

[barry luxton]

lets see, conger in the south, conger in the north but in the north sea no conger because of a plume of cold water. yer right. I do like your swerve away from deep water that was good.

What link have you sent, first paragraph details that the fishing industry has a gdp not worth bothering with. Is that your factual evidence that leaving the c f p is wrong? Spare a thought for the whole of the u k's coastal communities that are second class citizens in the e u, behind the e u's megliomaniniacs who give away the u k's fishing stocks, including the breeding stocks and leaves them nothing but depleted stocks and restrictions. What are you on.

 

Spare a thought today for those without any power during this wet and windy period...………………………….

Na, s t u f f  'em the remainiacs are now a lost cause.

[barry luxton]

8 hours ago, big_cod said:

Super trawlers love that  phrase so what exactly are UK flag trawlers that  catch 500 ton of mackerel in one haul herring in similar numbers , mackerel now off the sustainable list no these aren’t foreign boats doing this they UK owned super trawlers sat right now   in Peterhead working only 3 months of the year making millions then tied  up for remaining 9 months no mention of this industrial fishing in the news laughable .

 

These boats landing over 1000 ton  at any one time can catch as much as 500 ton in one haul industrial fishing we are guilty of it as much as anybody else .These aren’t boats they are ships industrial fishing in the U.K. fishing industry.

 

https://fishingnews.co.uk/features/new-pathway-pd-165-starts-on-maatjes-herring/

https://fishingnews.co.uk/features/taits-fr-229-advanced-technology-on-new-fraserburgh-midwater-trawler-enhances-family-traditions/

 

why are you linking u k registered boats, swerving away from the two boats in question that are targeting the food chain in the channel for the last two months. To correct your swerve and assumption that it is the nasty u k commercials who are clearing the stocks out, below are the facts. And while we are on the subject of fisheries management, mackerel and herring are not really in abundance yet the e u management are allowing these boats to target them, can you show us what facts the e u use to allow this? Are you also aware that the bass target these species, although these two boats claim clean catches, do you really believe no bass are caught? Roll on Brexit and the removal of the London protocol, that's a start.

quote:

There has been a lot of noise over social media, and elsewhere, about a super trawler, the Margiris, which has been operating in the Channel in recent weeks.

It was first picked up by an eagle-eyed observer who spotted it on publicly available AIS (Automatic Identification System for boats) tracking web sites.

This massive boat is about 15 miles off Worthing trawling around, presumably fishing for mackerel. It is huge. 150m long and a dead weight of 6200 tonnes. Not far away from it is the Annie Helina, a Belgian factory trawler of a similar size which is also working the area very hard.

For anyone who has an interest in sea angling, fisheries and fish conservation, or is engaged in inshore fishing seeing these monsters hoovering up vast quantities of fish day after day is heartbreaking. No wonder, we all think, fish stocks in the English Channel are so depleted.

[Huge_Vitae]

SAND EEL!

 

[barry luxton]

21 minutes ago, Huge_Vitae said:

SAND EEL!

 

ahhh, please expand on that if you please, I understand the e u have allowed the danes to increase their quota times five this year in the north sea. 

little snippet for cod re the conger, it's don't do well in cold water, assumingly:

Eels in excess of 200lb have been caught in commercial trawler’s nets, and a specimen weighing 350lb was reportedly caught by a trawler near the island of Vestmannaeyjar off the south coast of Iceland.

 

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