Phone 753 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 All, So you two are saying science is absolute? Foolish boys! As Chesters1 and I would tell you NOTHING is 100% You can "process" bad science over and over and have the same results. Equally, no one has confirmed heaven despite repeated instructions how to get there. Cory, What makes you think God did not give us the Heimlich or the complete capacity of the human mind? This thread started essentially as a question about "in the beginning...." "chicken or the egg" Ken, Religion changes all the time. Even the Pope changed the Church position on evolution. As for biblical "changes" many denominations change with the discovery of evidence. Science and religion are closely intertwined. Since neither are 100% what's missing is FAITH. Frankly, I try to cover all bets and keep an open mind. It bemuses me that it must be "either/or" for some people Phone Link to post Share on other sites
corydoras 472 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 All, So you two are saying science is absolute? Foolish boys! As Chesters1 and I would tell you NOTHING is 100% You can "process" bad science over and over and have the same results. Equally, no one has confirmed heaven despite repeated instructions how to get there. Cory, What makes you think God did not give us the Heimlich or the complete capacity of the human mind? This thread started essentially as a question about "in the beginning...." "chicken or the egg" Ken, Religion changes all the time. Even the Pope changed the Church position on evolution. As for biblical "changes" many denominations change with the discovery of evidence. Science and religion are closely intertwined. Since neither are 100% what's missing is FAITH. Frankly, I try to cover all bets and keep an open mind. It bemuses me that it must be "either/or" for some people Phone I don't think God exists. The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken L 998 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Phone. As your countryman Mark Twain once put it: “Faith is believing what you know ain't so.” No faith is required for a worldview defined by natural philosophy, 2+2 = 4 whether you have faith in 4 or not. Species caught in 2020: Barbel. European Eel. Bleak. Perch. Pike. Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace. Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel. Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp. Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak. Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 505 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 For those of us who can LEGALLY watch this from the BBC iplayer. COMETS TALE "La conclusión es que los insultos sólo perjudican cuando vienen de alguien que respeto". “Vescere bracis meis” Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1592 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) For those of us who can LEGALLY watch this from the BBC iplayer. COMETS TALE Looks a bit like a cartoon to me ,why do programs insist on putting graphics on ,do they think we are morons who cannot grasp a concept without rubbish reinactments or computer created graphics ,i suppose its to bump up the 5 seconds of some bloke telling us the complete story Why dont they just shut up until its done I expect the media paid highly for the story of our mars lander ,it failed did they pay it back or was it the old no punishment for failure thats the trend today Once its done and dusted and with enough proof it was done then they skies the limit for money Edited September 13, 2016 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies! There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Walker 941 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 We have evolved brains well suited to intuitively grasping the physics of the sort of problems our ancestors had to solve. Time, distance, velocity, all on tiny scales. Basically the same sort of problems that a dung-hurling chimp solves. Our ambition and arrogance in trying to understand cosmology with our silly little ape brains is breathtaking. We shouldn't feel bad that we find it hard. Link to post Share on other sites
corydoras 472 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Looks a bit like a cartoon to me ,why do programs insist on putting graphics on ,do they think we are morons who cannot grasp a concept without rubbish reinactments or computer created graphics ,i suppose its to bump up the 5 seconds of some bloke telling us the complete story Why dont they just shut up until its done I expect the media paid highly for the story of our mars lander ,it failed did they pay it back or was it the old no punishment for failure thats the trend today Once its done and dusted and with enough proof it was done then they skies the limit for money Why? The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1592 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) Why? Because thats how funding is done Just to show i am not entirely anti space nonsense heres something that maybe true for you to enjoy Dammit no link i'l be back Edited September 13, 2016 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies! There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
corydoras 472 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Because thats how funding is done Just to show i am not entirely anti space nonsense heres something that maybe true for you to enjoy Dammit no link i'l be back What is? How? Don't equivicate and try to change the subject. How do you think funding is done? The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1592 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) Funding is done from advertising ,i doubt it was done free or if it was there was an expectation of funds coming from its being aired ,or everyone was needy and self obsessed and would do anything to get on tv? As i say we reward failure hopefully anything gained was returned especially if public taxes or lottery funding was involved If ofcourse every penny was provided by those involved i would have no problem at all Edited September 13, 2016 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies! There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
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