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#11 chesters1

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 09:48 AM

Why would anyone report a homophobic assault is it rare enough to deserve ink.
Papers annoy me ,blokes are just blokes but women are single or married with 2 3 or more children ,in the star i expect busty mother of 3 ,who gives a crap about their status stick to the point i only glance at side boob now but the mrs reads them then i learn about the wasp chewer and her single scottish issue grrrr given up arguing nothing outside of our house is really real only an impression of someone elses version of it

Edited by chesters1, 05 April 2017 - 09:52 AM.

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness  it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 10:40 AM

Why would anyone report a homophobic assault is it rare enough to deserve ink.
Papers annoy me ,blokes are just blokes but women are single or married with 2 3 or more children ,in the star i expect busty mother of 3 ,who gives a crap about their status stick to the point i only glance at side boob now but the mrs reads them then i learn about the wasp chewer and her single scottish issue grrrr given up arguing nothing outside of our house is really real only an impression of someone elses version of it

:offtopic: but, It's called the Scottish NATIONALIST Party for a reason. Campaigning for a referendum on independence is and always has been in their manifesto. If the Scots don't want her to do that then they should stop voting for her in droves.


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 10:41 AM

Like Cory, I found that video surprising. The impression the media have given of this man is clearly not the one he would like to portray. Exactly where the truth is - I don't know - but I do think that attempts to shut people like him up make the problem worse. If there are problems (and there clearly are) you can't go on pretending they don't exist forever.

Here's something I spotted in the media today. There was a homophobic assault in the Netherlands.

Telegraph coverage;

http://www.telegraph...ce-netherlands/

HuffPo coverage;

http://www.huffingto...4b0f4a923b24fd5

Indy coverage;

https://www.indy100....ophobia-7665506

Can you spot a piece of information that the Telegraph (and the Dutch papers) consider to be salient, but that the HuffPo and Indy thought it would be best not to mention?

Moroccans!


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:01 AM

Quite so. I'm amazed by the way that many people who would consider themselves to be liberal and progressive are willing to turn a blind eye to cultural and religious attitudes to women and gay people that would normally be anathema to them. It's bizarre.

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 12:18 PM

There seems to be a whole heap of confusion between race and religion. Islam is a religion not a race. One can change ones religion but one cannot change ones race,


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 04:40 PM

:offtopic: but, It's called the Scottish NATIONALIST Party for a reason. Campaigning for a referendum on independence is and always has been in their manifesto. If the Scots don't want her to do that then they should stop voting for her in droves.

Err scotland is a nation is she trying to make it a bigger one? As for independance theres not much difference to now except hadrians wall hasnt been rebuilt ,trump may get the contract
Did they vote for her party or just not vote for labour as a protest vote?
I would love to see an independant scotland and her with her begging bowl talking to the EU lol

Edited by chesters1, 05 April 2017 - 04:48 PM.

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness  it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

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"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 08:18 PM

Makes you think about the other people that the loud mouthed SJW left and the gutter press like to lable. "Far right", "Racist" and "Fascist" are favourites for Nigel Farage. You may or may not like his stance on the EU but has anyone ever heard him make a racist comment?
How about Marine Le Pen? Her father undoubtedly was, but if she is, she's done a good job of hiding it for the last 25 years.

Outside of politics, I read a Google News headline last weekend that referenced a German knife expert who's supposedly "vile" YouTube was allegedly showing jhadis how to stab through a protective vest.
Now I can think of world class knife experts who are French, American or Filipino but German? Who could this be?
I opened the link and it was to The Mail on Sunday and the evil "German knife expert" turned out to be Jörg Sprave who runs "The Slingshot Channel" on Youtube. He is a guy who makes crazy weapons and tests them and other related stuff. In this case, he had ordered what turned out to be a piece of carp stab vest from Amazon and proceeded to demonstrate that it was useless by punching a home made dagger right through the supposedly protective plate. The guy made a fun and useful (at least to any would be legitimate Amazon stab vest customers) video and virtually got labelled terrorist by the British gutter press.

I'm coming to the conclusion that there's more than a little truth in the notion of "fake news".

Edited by Ken L, 05 April 2017 - 08:19 PM.

Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.
Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima.  Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.
Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.
Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub. 
Species caught in 2014: Striped catfish. Pacu. Giant gourami. Clown knife fish. Rohu. Siamese carp. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Roach. Bream. Perch. Rainbow trout. Chub. Common Carp, Ide. Brown Trout. Barbel. Mekong catfish. Jullien's golden carp. Alligator gar. Java barb.
Species caught in 2013: Mangrove Jack. Barramundi. Blubberlip snapper. Baracouda. Malabar grouper. Yellowfin Trevally. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Roach. Pike. European Eel. Bleak.
Species caught in 2012: Northern whiting. Moray eel. Barramundi. Snakehead murrel. Silver razorbelly minnow. Deccan Mahseer. Malabar mystus. Deccan rita. Spotted Malabar Grouper. Mangrove Jack. Indian sea catfish. Brown Trout. Chub. Perch. Roach. Rudd.
Species caught in 2011: Indian sea catfish. Sardine. Barramundi. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Record Humpbacked Mahseer. Yellow Fin Trevelly. Giant Trevelly. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Pike. Atlantic salmon. Dace. Minnow. Roach. Gudgeon. 
Species caught in 2010: Barramundi. Giant Trevelly. Moray eel. Indian sea catfish. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Humpback Mahseer. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Bass. Pike. 
Species caught in 2009: Chub. Perch. Pike. Pacu. Thai Striped Catfish. 
Species caught in 2008: Barramundi. p-i-k-e-y sea bream. Indian sea catfish. Guitarfish. Mangrove Jack. Mahseer. Squid (Not strictly a fish but it took a lure !). Emperor Sweetlip. Black Spot Snapper. Moray eel. Spangled Emperor. Bluecheek silver grunt. Yellow striped emperor. Vanikoro sweeper. Pike. Perch. Brown trout. Chub. Atlantic salmon.


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 09:09 AM

I don't often agree with Melanie Phillips, but I think she makes some strong points here;

http://melaniephilli...as-formulation/

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 03:06 AM

Makes you think about the other people that the loud mouthed SJW left and the gutter press like to lable. "Far right", "Racist" and "Fascist" are favourites for Nigel Farage. You may or may not like his stance on the EU but has anyone ever heard him make a racist comment?
How about Marine Le Pen? Her father undoubtedly was, but if she is, she's done a good job of hiding it for the last 25 years.

Outside of politics, I read a Google News headline last weekend that referenced a German knife expert who's supposedly "vile" YouTube was allegedly showing jhadis how to stab through a protective vest.
Now I can think of world class knife experts who are French, American or Filipino but German? Who could this be?
I opened the link and it was to The Mail on Sunday and the evil "German knife expert" turned out to be Jörg Sprave who runs "The Slingshot Channel" on Youtube. He is a guy who makes crazy weapons and tests them and other related stuff. In this case, he had ordered what turned out to be a piece of carp stab vest from Amazon and proceeded to demonstrate that it was useless by punching a home made dagger right through the supposedly protective plate. The guy made a fun and useful (at least to any would be legitimate Amazon stab vest customers) video and virtually got labelled terrorist by the British gutter press.

I'm coming to the conclusion that there's more than a little truth in the notion of "fake news".

If the "right" did more to eliminate social injustice then the SJWs as you call them would have nothing to go to war over would they Ken?
 
 
Marine is not the one to watch, check out her niece Marion Maréchal-Le Pen. I would not  trust any of them.

 

Marine Le Pen took someone to court for calling her a Fascist. The judge threw the case out, told her it was an accurate description.

https://www.washingt...m=.642a0f705457

 

This is the same party that was fined for distributing fake leaflets in Arabic in another party's name in a by-election

http://www.ibtimes.c...jean-luc-347799

 

More FN corruption.

 

http://www.newstates...esidential-race


Edited by corydoras, 07 April 2017 - 03:50 AM.

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 06:21 PM

LFN have engaged in some dodgy politicking? Wow. Can you name a party that hasn't?

So what if a judge threw a case out and called Le Pen a silly name - If someone gave you a gown and a gavel, you would have done the same thing with Tommy Robinson a week ago.

I have nothing to hide, and I call upon those who are scared by the National Front to look up the National Front's manifesto. It's quite easy on the Internet.

-Marine Le Pen

I do not have the slightest bit of racism in me. I do not judge people with regards to the colour of their skin, their origin, or their religion. I defend them all, because I defend French people. And, of course, I defend the interests of France, the interests of French people.

-Marine Le Pen

 

LFN are certainly less distasteful than the AFD.
There are some good people in the party and they could become a real force in German politics but the AFD lacks a grounding in working class values and is riddled with robber baron right wingers who can't keep their mouths shut about race - and the party leaders can't control them.
Merkel is a crazy bitch but she will win in September as the AFD implodes.


Edited by Ken L, 08 April 2017 - 07:06 AM.

Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.
Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima.  Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.
Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.
Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub. 
Species caught in 2014: Striped catfish. Pacu. Giant gourami. Clown knife fish. Rohu. Siamese carp. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Roach. Bream. Perch. Rainbow trout. Chub. Common Carp, Ide. Brown Trout. Barbel. Mekong catfish. Jullien's golden carp. Alligator gar. Java barb.
Species caught in 2013: Mangrove Jack. Barramundi. Blubberlip snapper. Baracouda. Malabar grouper. Yellowfin Trevally. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Roach. Pike. European Eel. Bleak.
Species caught in 2012: Northern whiting. Moray eel. Barramundi. Snakehead murrel. Silver razorbelly minnow. Deccan Mahseer. Malabar mystus. Deccan rita. Spotted Malabar Grouper. Mangrove Jack. Indian sea catfish. Brown Trout. Chub. Perch. Roach. Rudd.
Species caught in 2011: Indian sea catfish. Sardine. Barramundi. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Record Humpbacked Mahseer. Yellow Fin Trevelly. Giant Trevelly. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Pike. Atlantic salmon. Dace. Minnow. Roach. Gudgeon. 
Species caught in 2010: Barramundi. Giant Trevelly. Moray eel. Indian sea catfish. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Humpback Mahseer. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Bass. Pike. 
Species caught in 2009: Chub. Perch. Pike. Pacu. Thai Striped Catfish. 
Species caught in 2008: Barramundi. p-i-k-e-y sea bream. Indian sea catfish. Guitarfish. Mangrove Jack. Mahseer. Squid (Not strictly a fish but it took a lure !). Emperor Sweetlip. Black Spot Snapper. Moray eel. Spangled Emperor. Bluecheek silver grunt. Yellow striped emperor. Vanikoro sweeper. Pike. Perch. Brown trout. Chub. Atlantic salmon.