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As a general rule, cross between two species = hybrid

 

Cross between two strains of the same species = mongrel (as in dog breeds)

 

Having said that, i misused "mongrel" in #5 !

 

....and nobody is to start pontificating on what constitutes a species :crazy:

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World species 471 : UK species 105 : English species 95 .

Certhia's world species - 215

Eclectic "husband and wife combined" world species 501

 

"Nothing matters very much, few things matter at all" - Plato

...only things like fresh bait and cold beer...

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You have to be careful when talking about "hybrids" - the term is used for both interspecies hybrids, as we're discussing here, and crosses between different strains of the same species. Those different strains of carp are all Cyprinus carpio. When you buy F1 hybrid seeds from the garden store, both parents are the same species of plant, they're just different varieties of it. When they stock "F1s" in godforsaken British carp puddles, they're stocking a cross between a common carp and a crucian carp or brown goldfish. We're talking the difference between a cross of two different breeds of horse, and a mule.

Sexist beast dont forget hinnies or hinnys?!?

 

Hmm is it male crucian mating with female goldfish an F1 or is a male goldfish and female crucian a nascar?

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None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

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All,

 

Thanks Steve, yes, the exact reason I put "hybrid" instead of hybrid. I still believe searching "FAO hybrid zone" (with species of interest tagged at the end) is the proper source.

 

At the risk of appearing pedantic here is everything you're likely to ever want to know about "carp"

http://www.fao.org/fishery/culturedspecies/Cyprinus_carpio/en

 

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PS: I still cannot remember the proper word for "hybrid zone" fishes ?????

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All,

 

Ha ha , I'm back with this gem. The internet is an amazing mish-mash isn't it.

 

Who in heaven's name would ever need this?

 

http://currents.plos.org/treeoflife/article/the-tree-of-life-and-a-new-classification-of-bony-fishes/

 

Phone

No good to me my two braincells can just about use the link !whats in it is nothing to do with sprouts or anything at village idiot level

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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I take great pride in my village idiot status ,i will except you can be a stetson wearing american version though as your no competition to my village ,chawn fine but no mention of grits please !

OH on searching to make sure chawn seems to be different today to the 50's cowboy book where it was chewing tobacco!?!

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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All,

 

Ha ha , I'm back with this gem. The internet is an amazing mish-mash isn't it.

 

Who in heaven's name would ever need this?

 

http://currents.plos.org/treeoflife/article/the-tree-of-life-and-a-new-classification-of-bony-fishes/

 

Phone

 

Somebody interested in the evolution and phylogeny of fishes, of course!

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