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That was the only response that any petitions of this sort are ever going to get. The only effect of calling for control of otters will be to turn the public against anglers.

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Don't you mean 'through fish spawning sites' Barry?

 

John.

I once waded through a herd of mating fish which didnt even notice ,believe me they aint going to be disturbed by colin the canoist or barry the boater

When you only get your fin over once a year nothing is going to stop them lol

Rivers and streams have been major highways for eons if they disturbed fish they would have gone long ago

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

 

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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I'm given to believe that Otters only take what they need, as against Mink and Cormorants which kill for Fun.

 

Mink & Cormorants should all be shot on sight as vermin IMO.

 

Air Rifle & Shotgun enthusiasts could be invited onto fisheries on (safe to shoot) none fishing days!!

 

Most commies have a day off from fishing once a week.

 

PS - I know of one or 2 fishery owners who already shoot them on the side!!!

 

It's only the "OK YA, Liberal Minded Tossers" who are standing in the way - they just don't get it!!

 

(In Government I mean - not to offend anyone on here for those of whom don't necessarily agree with my opinion)

 

And - Just to re iterate - It's Only My opinion!!!!

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Fishin' - "Best Fun Ya' can 'ave wi' Ya' Clothes On"!!

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I'm given to believe that Otters only take what they need, as against Mink and Cormorants which kill for Fun.

 

Mink & Cormorants should all be shot on sight as vermin IMO.

 

Air Rifle & Shotgun enthusiasts could be invited onto fisheries on (safe to shoot) none fishing days!!

 

Most commies have a day off from fishing once a week.

 

PS - I know of one or 2 fishery owners who already shoot them on the side!!!

 

It's only the "OK YA, Liberal Minded Tossers" who are standing in the way - they just don't get it!!

 

(In Government I mean - not to offend anyone on here for those of whom don't necessarily agree with my opinion)

 

And - Just to re iterate - It's Only My opinion!!!!

 

 

Mink and cormorants don't kill for the fun of it at all, that's utter nonsense!

 

I think the only animal on the planet that kills for fun is human beings.

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Mink and cormorants don't kill for the fun of it at all, that's utter nonsense!

 

I think the only animal on the planet that kills for fun is human beings.

Maybe, but it didn't look that way when as a kid I went to get the eggs from the duck pen and a mink had got in. 9 out of ten hadn't been eaten, but they were all dead.


 

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Maybe, but it didn't look that way when as a kid I went to get the eggs from the duck pen and a mink had got in. 9 out of ten hadn't been eaten, but they were all dead.

 

Niether did I when I lived my grandads farm and the fields where strewn with chickens when a fox had paid a visit.

When I was keepering I picked up 90 poults that a fox had killed. Both the chickens and pheasants had only had theeir heads chewed off.

I've had stoats in my own small hen house and tehy've killed most of the hens and left the others with burst eyeballs etc.

 

Those are totally different senearios though, you know that Brian.

In normal conditions animals don't kill for fun.

Household cats kill things and leave it but that's because they have to fullfill they're instincts but have no hunger for the kill.

 

You know my opinions on cats....my dogs have the instinct to kill 'em and they often look like a rat when the bead is on 'em!

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Even in those conditions I doubt that "fun" is the right word - just instinct trying to deal with more food than they know what to do with.

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​Why are these petitions always about things with fur and feathers, and the occasional foreign accent?

Why are they never about some of the the piscine crap that we have swimming in our waters? You know the ones that anglers spread into every water, the ones that prey on, and compete with the indigenous species. The ones that the organisations who state that they are 'here to protect the flora and fauna of our waterways', actively encourage.

Oh, hang on, silly me, I forgot. :doh: They can be fished for, they put a bend in the rod, money can be made from them, and they can be used to boost deflated egos. So that's OK then.

As you were.

 

John.

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Angling is more than just catching fish, if it wasn't it would just be called 'catching'......... John

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Predators are hard wired to fill their stomachs to the brim because tomorrow they maybe empty!

Animals probably dont have fun just as they dont have remourse ,food is just that food ,if they kill all they see they dont run away and the animal can return and feed ,unfortunately humans clean up their pantry but ofcourse if humans looked after their chickens a bit better the predator wouldnt get to them

As for loose animals they look even more like food and ofcourse are just that

 

I studied under lord colemans gamekeeper as a youth ,his fences were covered in every predator known to man but all he was doing was letting another take its place and wasting cartridges ,predators eat things its how it works ,if you dont lock up the predator or the prey thats what happens its called life

 

If its fish predation wont make a lot of difference ,fish have existed for far longer than we have fished for them and the predators we detest just as long ,if predation destroyed fish there would be no fish today.

If a river declines it isnt animal predators ,it probably isnt human predation we have eaten fish for as long as we fished for them ,its human interference but hidden in the water ,most probably chemicals let through sewage works because theres no laws requiring water to be clean

I wouldnt trust the water suplly to be as safe as they say nevermind the crap they pump into rivers ,my water has a five stage filter ,it costs a few quid a year to run but you taste the difference and like asbestos a few years down the line what was safe has been poisoning us i wont take the chance i havnt drank from the tap for decades i wouldnt trust someone elses assurances as far as i can throw them especially huge companies making money from it IE water companjes

 

Carp (or rather those that buy them to release) have a lot to answer for ,when i was a youth river carp were almost unheard of ,one in a canal was only speculation but carp alone dont destroy waters those that put them in do knowing carp can destroy waters destroy waters so blame clubs but mostly blame carp anglers without them only more natural wild carp would be quietly existing doing little harm in small numbers

Theres also the concern over rotting bait ,i once watched a bloke wade out and tip a complete bucket of bait not just once 4 times what does that do when he goes home ?

Now we are seeing pot belly tench joining the ranks of pot belly carp ,i would rather catch a sleek wildie than those bloated things and its much more fun and you dont need gallons of bait just a bit of skill and ofcourse a pond with one or two in a very rare thing nowadays ,the ones i had fun catching have long been repaced by pot belly carp and the water declined in doing so but was it the carp or the carp angler and his gallons of bait ,imho the latter

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

 

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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Martin56, on 22 Feb 2018 - 23:57, said:

I'm given to believe that Otters only take what they need, as against Mink and Cormorants which kill for Fun.

 

Mink & Cormorants should all be shot on sight as vermin IMO.

 

Air Rifle & Shotgun enthusiasts could be invited onto fisheries on (safe to shoot) none fishing days!!

 

Most commies have a day off from fishing once a week.

 

PS - I know of one or 2 fishery owners who already shoot them on the side!!!

 

It's only the "OK YA, Liberal Minded Tossers" who are standing in the way - they just don't get it!!

 

(In Government I mean - not to offend anyone on here for those of whom don't necessarily agree with my opinion)

 

And - Just to re iterate - It's Only My opinion!!!!

 

 

you missed out TAT's goosanders, they wanted them dead as well.

 

Radipole lake, Weymouth it's a bird sanctuary lots of cormorants drying their wings on man made perches. What's directly below them, yup quite a healthy day ticket roach fishery.

 

How's the avon 'getting on' mass devastation caused by cormorants. They ate all the errrm roach apparently, according to TAT and their mates, they missed the healthy dace stock though, kin fussy eaters them birds.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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