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Dont move the goal posts now ken :lol:

 

We were talking about multiculturism and how its replaced your culture somehow a veil is it the center of it. The straw man argument was that daft video of innocent looking women wearing veils walking down a street and attrubuting a loss of british culture to it.


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Dont move the goal posts now ken :lol:

 

We were talking about multiculturism and how its replaced your culture somehow a veil is it the center of it. The straw man argument was that daft video of innocent looking women wearing veils walking down a street and attrubuting a loss of british culture to it.

 

May I suggest that you go back and read posts #14 and #59?

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I am happy with enforcing the law equally. The other things seem, well, not very British.

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Personally I have no interest in mandatory;

 

Church on sunday

Cricket

Football support

Sending my (hypothetical) kids to a boarding school where they will only mix with others from their narrow social background and come out unable to empathise with people from different backgrounds (irony intended)

Tugging my forelock to the local aristocracy

Joining a trade union and moaning about Thatcher

Speaking Welsh

Dying myself orange and worshipping TOWIE

Dressing like a goth, punk, emo or hipster

Buying a cardigan and taking up bowls

etc

 

British culture is not homogeneous and I am pretty sure that many groups would, if they chose to mandate it, pick something youd hate.

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I remember multiple occasions when I was out and about with my (now ex) long term Indian girlfriend when we were accosted and abused by groups of young Muslim men who would inevitably run off after taunting her in Urdu (almost identical to Hindi) sufficiently to leave her screaming after them.

She never did repeat exactly what was said but it certainly wasn't very British.

Unsurprisingly, they always targeted her and never had the stones to try confronting me.


Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub.

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And thats totally unacceptable.

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I dont like ethnic minority communities becoming more insular, ghettoising, thinking it is us-vs-them. It is unhealthy for a whole host of reasons, not least radicalisation. But playing into the persecution complexes of troublemakers is the last thing we want to do to fix that. I do understand the more benign reasons for it - things like specialist shops, places of worship, people who can translate, etc. But it is not healthy. I would rather have lots more mosques and ethnic shops in the suburbs and villages than large urban areas which are in fact not multicultural but monocultural. The problems we have with multiculturalism are not in the idea, but in the implementation. We f-d it up. I do not think we can return to the 1940s, I think we have to fix this and make it work.

 

To be honest, I thought that the young people were past this, but my girlfriends son (who is half West Indian) got called a n****r at school. Now that is depressing.

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Depressing but predictable and very human - people will use any distinguishing feature (physical, mental, cultural or whatever) to try to inflict emotional harm.

It means nothing other than that the person doing it is a dick.


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Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

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Thats pretty much what I said to her. Hes such a good kid that it is heartbreaking to think he is going to have to toughen up and not let that nonsense get to him, but what can you do? Hes got into the local grammar school, and they have pretty high standards, but I bet it is not the last he will see of it.

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Personally I have no interest in mandatory;

 

Church on sunday

Cricket

Football support

Sending my (hypothetical) kids to a boarding school where they will only mix with others from their narrow social background and come out unable to empathise with people from different backgrounds (irony intended)

Tugging my forelock to the local aristocracy

Joining a trade union and moaning about Thatcher

Speaking Welsh

Dying myself orange and worshipping TOWIE

Dressing like a goth, punk, emo or hipster

Buying a cardigan and taking up bowls

etc

 

British culture is not homogeneous and I am pretty sure that many groups would, if they chose to mandate it, pick something youd hate.

Perhaps soon it will be mandatory friday prayers

Sending your kid to a mandatory madrasa for religeous reorientation

Tugging your forlock (or more probably prostrating yourself )in front of the local mullah

And looking the other way when your daughters are given to the local big shot as a gift.

 

We all think its a joke but its a creeping certainty if nothing is done ,they wont integrate with us we will be forced to integrate with them.

Even the better versions only integrate skin deep but below that they behave like they did back home soon they wont have to pretend

 

Trouble is in the case of schools the government has tied their own hands can they legaly shut muslem schools yet leave christian ones also brainwashing our kids ?they may not be running round with explsive vests but goodness knows what harm they are doing in Africa brainwashing gullible natives

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