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In this case "optics" relates to the way that an action or event is viewed by the community or outsiders:

Having the cathedral rebuilt by the French = good optics.

Having the continent's "new Europeans" gloating and laughing about the fire on social media = bad optics.

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Come on, you're not that much older than me...

In this case "optics" relates to the way that an action or event is viewed by the community or outsiders:

Having the cathedral rebuilt by the French = good optics.

Having the continent's "new Europeans" gloating and laughing about the fire on social media = bad optics.

Good spirits from optics is still good spirits ,who are these new europeans only the countries borders change the residents remain the same ,europes borders also change some by war ,some by declaration, one by nature Edited by chesters1

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

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Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

 

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Good spirits from optics is still good spirits ,who are these new europeans only the countries borders change the residents remain the same ,europes borders also change some by war ,some by declaration, one by nature

People with the sort of names that were expelled from western Europe in 1609 - although they did try to come back again via a different route for a sight seeing trip to Vienna in 1683.

Species caught in 2020: Barbel. European Eel. Bleak. Perch. Pike.

Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub.

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AH i had to google lol ,isnt gloating throughout mankind ,there was plenty in the shock and awe scenarios in the iraq war .

If those that lived by the sword died by it there would be a worldwide sword shortage

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

 

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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Don't forget, just a few years ago French stonemasons, architects et al built a medieval castle from scratch, using only techniques available centuries ago. I'm sure many of the people who worked on the castle will be employed in the rebuilding of Notre Dam. Plus they'll help to bring up another generation of craftsmen helping on the project.

 

Five years seems too short a time though, I'm saying more like 10 years minimum to finish all the work. After all, work is still going on at York Minster after it suffered a fire over 10 years ago.

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Don't forget, just a few years ago French stonemasons, architects et al built a medieval castle from scratch, using only techniques available centuries ago. I'm sure many of the people who worked on the castle will be employed in the rebuilding of Notre Dam. Plus they'll help to bring up another generation of craftsmen helping on the project.

 

Five years seems too short a time though, I'm saying more like 10 years minimum to finish all the work. After all, work is still going on at York Minster after it suffered a fire over 10 years ago.

 

 

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Im sure that it was screened on the History Channel ?

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Surely the place was insured?.....WTF do they want donations ffs!

 

I can't remember the French, or any other country donateing any money to the uk when there's been a problem here.

The cost to repair the place wouldn't even dent the Popes wallet!

 

I wonder who set the place on fire....pretty obvious!

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Don't forget, just a few years ago French stonemasons, architects et al built a medieval castle from scratch, using only techniques available centuries ago. I'm sure many of the people who worked on the castle will be employed in the rebuilding of Notre Dam. Plus they'll help to bring up another generation of craftsmen helping on the project.

 

Five years seems too short a time though, I'm saying more like 10 years minimum to finish all the work. After all, work is still going on at York Minster after it suffered a fire over 10 years ago.

 

The ­Chateau de Guedelon

 

 

Im sure that it was screened on the History Channel ?

 

Yes it was, after it was shown on the BBC :)

John S

Quanti Canicula Ille In Fenestra

 

Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow.

Species caught in 2016: Alder, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Crab Apple, Left Earlobe, Pedunculate Oak, Rock Whitebeam, Scots Pine, Smooth-leaved Elm, Swan, Wayfaring tree.

Species caught in 2015: Ash, Bird Cherry, Black-Headed Gull, Common Hazel, Common Whitebeam, Elder, Field Maple, Gorse, Puma, Sessile Oak, White Willow.

Species caught in 2014: Big Angry Man's Ear, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Common Whitebeam, Downy Birch, European Beech, European Holly, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, Wych Elm.
Species caught in 2013: Beech, Elder, Hawthorn, Oak, Right Earlobe, Scots Pine.

Species caught in 2012: Ash, Aspen, Beech, Big Nasty Stinging Nettle, Birch, Copper Beech, Grey Willow, Holly, Hazel, Oak, Wasp Nest (that was a really bad day), White Poplar.
Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.
Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew.

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Pretty crude stonework though compared to the intricacies of spires etc

I did watch some of the program the gist was it was being rebuilt using medieval practices (i think) theres no need in reality the stonework could be cut using modern machinery or they would be at it for decades!

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

 

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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