Should we have left the EU?

[chesters1]

I wonder if the troll could string a sentence together if he didnt depend on the lying ,biased gutter press fit for toilet paper media (cods words) so he can cut and paste what he hopes will win his argument

[big_cod]

1 hour ago, chesters1 said:

I wonder if the troll could string a sentence together if he didnt depend on the lying ,biased gutter press fit for toilet paper media (cods words) so he can cut and paste what he hopes will win his argument

Win my argument sure can it’s those with there heads up there arses . and egg splattered all over there face .

Tariffs will be scrapped immediately on imported beef and lamb from Australia, triggering accusations that the trade deal struck by Boris Johnson will send UK farmers “to the wall”.

The small print of the first major post-Brexit agreement – revealed by Canberra, as the UK government tried to keep it under wraps – revealed a pledge to protect farmers for 15 years has been dropped.

Let’s just stick to the facts it’s easier.

Edited June 16, 2021 by big_cod

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7 hours ago, Ken L said:

As usual, you are misquoting Jacob Rees Mogg. He was very clearly talking about how long it would take for the full ramifications of Brexit to play out and NOT suggesting that it would take 50 years to see a recovery - or anything like it.

The full interview is here:

As for sovereignty; only this week, the EU are trying to grab more control of their member states.

They are also looking to remove the vetos of individual member states that apply to foreign policy, tax raising and budgetary powers.

Mogg is a hooking idiot now talk about loon you got one there where has he been hiding .

So ken your words Australian trade deal U.K. to look after U.K. farmers is that another Johnson lie , sure is ord  lad and you fell for it hook line and sinker ???fool you .more lambs to the brexit slaughter they are piling up

Brexsick Britain king rat Johnson the lies just keep flowing .Brexit all about looking after the brits  what a complete load of crap .

Oh dear well I never now who would have thought !!!!!!! Can words actually express ??? First trade deal and boom under the bus you go with the rest .

The small print of the first major post-Brexit agreement – revealed by Canberra, as the UK government tried to keep it under wraps – revealed a pledge to protect farmers for 15 years has been dropped.

Edited June 16, 2021 by big_cod

[Ken L]

1 hour ago, big_cod said:

Mogg is a hooking idiot now talk about loon you got one there where has he been hiding .

So ken your words Australian trade deal U.K. to look after U.K. farmers is that another Johnson lie , sure is ord  lad and you fell for it hook line and sinker ???fool you .more lambs to the brexit slaughter they are piling up

Brexsick Britain king rat Johnson the lies just keep flowing .Brexit all about looking after the brits  what a complete load of crap .

Oh dear well I never now who would have thought !!!!!!! Can words actually express ??? First trade deal and boom under the bus you go with the rest .

The small print of the first major post-Brexit agreement – revealed by Canberra, as the UK government tried to keep it under wraps – revealed a pledge to protect farmers for 15 years has been dropped.

You get caught out misquoting JRM and all you can do is rant like a loon and insult the man. You sound completely unhinged at this point.

As for your "small print"... Good! That means that the deal is worth far more that the paltry 0.2% of GDP that you were moaning was too little - you should be clapping Boris on the back.

How are you doing with your Brexit success measures? Any closer to a definitive set of tests to be met before you declare it a success?

Edited June 16, 2021 by Ken L

[chesters1]

I worked for a company called cashmarts in folkestone in 72? We were getting through so much NZ lamb the company bought a freezer trailer to hold more as the big freezer couldnt hold a weeks worth until the next delivery ,ted teeth was in charge then he lost bis head and joined the EEC and suddenly things went down hill ,we have always traded with europe i particularly  liked a french cheddar caled Centre (or words to that effect )and ofcourse there was Anchor 90+ from oz that was popular ,i tasted my first and last pizza then why anyone would eat that crap is beyond me.

Strange no-one remembers what was lost when we joined only what maybe lost  after we left ,what is lost could if the brits got off their arses and stopped whining be regained fuggles hops not those belgian ones ,english apples not those tasteless french ones (even tasteless eaten on the bloody tree!) Things werent bought from britain because they were crap they companies sat on their hands and then wondered where their trade had gone being undercut or outproduced by european ones ,the 80 acre strawberry fields up the road from me closed in 75 they couldnt be bothered to pay decent wages or modernise and realised high prices didnt make sense when it could be bought cheaper from europe with its poorly paid exploited immigrant labour (the ones clod wants ,unfortunately all that achievs is more profit the price still wont drop to compete)

Food boutiques now proudly boast british made or grown in the uk ,thats what real life was back then but cheaper than now ,yes on one hand some goods became cheaper but at a huge cost to agriculture and industry ,had we started improving and modernising today may have been different instead of thousands of acres of land doing nothing they could be productive .hopefully things we cannot now import may give the incentive to grow it ourselves again but i think farmers would rather live on handkuts that was the first thing mentioned by the farmers union after the brexit vote after all they cant blame cheap imports if theres no cheap imports ! I wouldnt mind paying 10% more for localy produced stuff but i do object to paying 200% more from the local farm shop that isnt a farm at all just an importer

Mind you why do i need veg and strawberries we grow 2 varieties of strawberries and this year 10 varieties of tomatoes (just one of each to find the best for this area) mini cukes and mangy touts ,lettuces and spring onions chives by the ton ,still got bags of veg from last year in the freezer we dont need the EU for food although oranges could be a problem but the sun shines in other places isreal does some nice fruit

Edited June 16, 2021 by chesters1

[Ken L]

Payback for Varadkar.....

[chesters1]

Words are cheap but putting one over the EU great if its not to expensive ,if the EU want to play about with ireland then so be it ,and although beef is nice its not an essential part of a humans diet so if the price goes up more than i think its worth i wont buy it just as i dont buy overpriced uk lamb (how much does it cost to throw a sheep on a hill or field for 5 to 8 months?) Prices are high because fools pay high prices ,if they didnt the price would fall its the middle men driving up the price put them out of work! I find it strange though importing from ireland goes unoticed isnt that "harming "british farmers ? Only when its a new deal does it do so 

Edited June 16, 2021 by chesters1

[big_cod]

7 hours ago, chesters1 said:

I worked for a company called cashmarts in folkestone in 72? We were getting through so much NZ lamb the company bought a freezer trailer to hold more as the big freezer couldnt hold a weeks worth until the next delivery ,ted teeth was in charge then he lost bis head and joined the EEC and suddenly things went down hill ,we have always traded with europe i particularly  liked a french cheddar caled Centre (or words to that effect )and ofcourse there was Anchor 90+ from oz that was popular ,i tasted my first and last pizza then why anyone would eat that crap is beyond me.

Strange no-one remembers what was lost when we joined only what maybe lost  after we left ,what is lost could if the brits got off their arses and stopped whining be regained fuggles hops not those belgian ones ,english apples not those tasteless french ones (even tasteless eaten on the bloody tree!) Things werent bought from britain because they were crap they companies sat on their hands and then wondered where their trade had gone being undercut or outproduced by european ones ,the 80 acre strawberry fields up the road from me closed in 75 they couldnt be bothered to pay decent wages or modernise and realised high prices didnt make sense when it could be bought cheaper from europe with its poorly paid exploited immigrant labour (the ones clod wants ,unfortunately all that achievs is more profit the price still wont drop to compete)

Food boutiques now proudly boast british made or grown in the uk ,thats what real life was back then but cheaper than now ,yes on one hand some goods became cheaper but at a huge cost to agriculture and industry ,had we started improving and modernising today may have been different instead of thousands of acres of land doing nothing they could be productive .hopefully things we cannot now import may give the incentive to grow it ourselves again but i think farmers would rather live on handkuts that was the first thing mentioned by the farmers union after the brexit vote after all they cant blame cheap imports if theres no cheap imports ! I wouldnt mind paying 10% more for localy produced stuff but i do object to paying 200% more from the local farm shop that isnt a farm at all just an importer

Mind you why do i need veg and strawberries we grow 2 varieties of strawberries and this year 10 varieties of tomatoes (just one of each to find the best for this area) mini cukes and mangy touts ,lettuces and spring onions chives by the ton ,still got bags of veg from last year in the freezer we dont need the EU for food although oranges could be a problem but the sun shines in other places isreal does some nice fruit

And how has the U.K. economy done since we joined  EEC better  or worse !!!!!!

[big_cod]

8 hours ago, Ken L said:

You get caught out misquoting JRM and all you can do is rant like a loon and insult the man. You sound completely unhinged at this point.

As for your "small print"... Good! That means that the deal is worth far more that the paltry 0.2% of GDP that you were moaning was too little - you should be clapping Boris on the back.

How are you doing with your Brexit success measures? Any closer to a definitive set of tests to be met before you declare it a success?

????  
So our farmers aren’t thrown under the bus then  any news on those Randall and Hopkirk Eu criminals the ones you said we were going to stop coming here , the ones we won’t know who they are they are because of brexit  

That sums brexit up that’s brexit backwardness .now who’s the loon !!!

Not  only has brexit made the U.K. financially worse off it’s made Britain less safe it’s made an excellent job of stopping the immigrants coming across the channel Is there anything we aren’t  worse off with brexit nope !!!!!!!!!! It is becoming more of an embarrassment by the day keep dreaming Ken .

Edited June 17, 2021 by big_cod

[chesters1]

Round and round the troll goes