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11 minutes ago, leedafeeder said:

The last time Chinese labourers came to Morecambe Bay, they all drowned. Terrible incident but if that's how dodgy British people want to make maximum profit, that's what they have to do in the fishing industry.

Or we could do it the Scandinavian way.

Scandinavian skippers only use Scandinavian seafarer's.

Whoops

https://www.newsinenglish.no/2013/12/30/immigration-keeps-fishing-towns-alive/

Any industry exploits the illegal ,illiterate and lowest paid ,thats how they get profit whilst still competing .Cods romanian workers dont drive prices down they keep profit up the only people  to gain are the company bosses 

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Can we have a time frame for when this "**** is hitting the fan" please. I've been waiting at least a couple of years and I have roses to grow in the spring. 

Alas the ability to read and comprehend what others have written is not a strong point for some. I do try not to bother nowadays as really theres just no getting past those massive blinders but someti

You've spent the last five years telling us there are heaps of fish to be caught. Make up your mind.

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11 minutes ago, leedafeeder said:

The last time Chinese labourers came to Morecambe Bay, they all drowned. Terrible incident but if that's how dodgy British people want to make maximum profit, that's what they have to do in the fishing industry.

Or we could do it the Scandinavian way.

Scandinavian skippers only use Scandinavian seafarer's.

A hell of a lot of the whitefish boats in the U.K.  use Philippine labour and have done for many many years .know.

http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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Going to be lots of competition !

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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13 minutes ago, chesters1 said:

Going to be lots of competition !

Depends if they want to work for peanuts or not .most Philippine workers work through an agency who specialises in supply crews for boats and have   a history with supplying Philippine workers  .

I do chuckle when the Brexiteers say poor fishermen well there wasn’t one I knew and I know plenty , but that Was till 1 st January 2021  but there is  going to be  plenty now .

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If they are working for an agency they most probably will be changing boats routinely ,they then dont have any rights and dont have to be paid even minimum wage like any agency staff ( or maybe if the rules havt changed) .

Not cheap labour competition boat ownership competition ,hong kong is very expensive to live so anyone coming here must be rich,i will expect the non fishing immigrants will set up agencies in competition to the existing ones .They are not all illiterate chinese from the country we taught them well that why the chinese despise them

Yes it still apears a minimum of 12 weeks in the same place is the minimum to aquire working rights ,thats why your cheap labour in the NHS is going from hospital to hospital ,we noticed in my many visits in one year the cleaning staff and some nursing staff disapeared and turned up in another hospital and then back 3 months later

https://www.acas.org.uk/agency-workers/understanding-your-employment-rights-as-an-agency-worker

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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8 minutes ago, chesters1 said:

If they are working for an agency they most probably will be changing boats routinely ,they then dont have any rights and dont have to be paid even minimum wage like any agency staff ( or maybe if the rules havt changed) .

Not cheap labour competition boat ownership competition ,hong kong is very expensive to live so anyone coming here must be rich,i will expect the non fishing immigrants will set up agencies in competition to the existing ones .They are not all illiterate chinese from the country we taught them well that why the chinese despise them

They don’t change boats unless they are sacked from that boat , they get paid a daily rate and have there flights paid for to travel  home and back but do long stints at a time . They won’t be replaced many have worked in the U.K. for years and there labour is cheap.

 

 

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If you read the bit i was adding ,the "going home " bit is explained ,workers rights only kick in after 12 weeks ,so if they go somewhere else and come back the agency doesnt have to give them minimum wage ,or holidays etc

Thats ofcourse why the NHS uses them ,cheap nurses for the agency ,on demand staff for the NHS at probably higher prices than non agency but no problems with bolshy staffs working conditions

I expect most of the fleet is on its way ,probably take some months but the richer non sailors will be coming quicker now china is after them ready to start businesses  ,beats those romanians anytime

PS breiters dont say poor fishermem ,fishermen do to try and get more gov handouts

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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Newsinenglish.no sounds as fake as you can possibly get? Can you post some reliable info instead of Daily Mail rubbish?

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It’s a good option for reading news how other Countries see things, called broadening your horizons, if you don’t speak multiple languages.

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2 hours ago, leedafeeder said:

Newsinenglish.no sounds as fake as you can possibly get? Can you post some reliable info instead of Daily Mail rubbish?

Sorry it doesnt agree with your view of reality but i dont control norwegian press i think fhough i would believe it than your unproven opinion.

Is the bbc ok ? Tells of reporter getting job on a norwegian  trawler https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5JHsKFcgbJKv0JM0RmNW12Z/trawler-fishing-in-norway

Or this one

https://www.lifeinnorway.net/seafood-jobs/

Need more? Not speaking foreign isnt helping me but i guess if i can whittle some out in english theres many in a Scandinavian language ,the likes of "help our fishing industry is collapsing we will take anyone from anywhere"

https://www.thelocal.se/20140202/swedish-fishermen-quitting-in-droves-report

Crabs anyone?

https://maritime-union.com/job/88111

And the piece de resistance

https://www.google.com/amp/s/norwaytoday.info/news/4000-foreign-workers-are-coming-to-lofoten-and-vesteralen-for-the-fishing-season-there-is-fear-of-infection/amp/

42% of workers in sweden are not swedish! Anyone else want to play?

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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