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John S

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Well, some of them anyway.... Full story here.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid...000/1828913.stm

 

I didn't realise monkfish was endangered, I've been buying that instead of cod thinking I was doing some good for the environment :confused:

John S

Quanti Canicula Ille In Fenestra

 

Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow.

Species caught in 2016: Alder, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Crab Apple, Left Earlobe, Pedunculate Oak, Rock Whitebeam, Scots Pine, Smooth-leaved Elm, Swan, Wayfaring tree.

Species caught in 2015: Ash, Bird Cherry, Black-Headed Gull, Common Hazel, Common Whitebeam, Elder, Field Maple, Gorse, Puma, Sessile Oak, White Willow.

Species caught in 2014: Big Angry Man's Ear, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Common Whitebeam, Downy Birch, European Beech, European Holly, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, Wych Elm.
Species caught in 2013: Beech, Elder, Hawthorn, Oak, Right Earlobe, Scots Pine.

Species caught in 2012: Ash, Aspen, Beech, Big Nasty Stinging Nettle, Birch, Copper Beech, Grey Willow, Holly, Hazel, Oak, Wasp Nest (that was a really bad day), White Poplar.
Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.
Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew.

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This is what the editorial column of last week's Fishing News (the commercial's weekly comic) had to say:

 

'The dangers posed to the fishing industry by irresponsible conservation groups are clearly illustrated by the latest outburst from the Marine Conservation Society (MCS).

 

It has had the audacity to publish a Good Fish Guide that blacklists what it considers to be 20 alleged vulnerable species that should be avoided by consumers who are concerned about the marine environment

 

<snip>

 

Conservation is not just about preserving 'eco systems and biodiversity'; it is also about preserving jobs and coastal communities'

 

Do you think that they are getting a little worried that their sole approbation of commonly owned fish stocks is beginning to be rumbled?

 

Fishing News: http://www.fishingnews.co.uk

MCS: http://www.mcsuk.org

 

Tight Lines - leon

Sea Anglers' Conservation Network (SACN)

http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/sacn/

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Leon Roskilly:

... Conservation is not just about preserving 'eco systems and biodiversity'; it is also about preserving jobs and coastal communities'...

Well - if they can't figure out that w/o the viable coastal/open water eco systems and biodiversity, the jobs and coastal communities are done for, they ain't real bright.

 

[ 20 February 2002, 01:36 AM: Message edited by: Newt ]

" My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!" - Harry Truman, 33rd US President

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Newt:

Well - if they can't figure out that w/o the viable coastal/open water eco systems and boidiversity, the jobs and coastal communities are done for, they ain't real bright.

As our Fisheries Minister, Elliot Morley, remarked recently.

 

'What is the point of of preserving the fish stocks if at the end of it you don't have a fishing industry?'

 

(Elliot, I'm not sure if I'm quoting you word for word. My apologies if I don't have it exactly right)

 

Tight Lines - leon

Sea Anglers' Conservation Network (SACN)

http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/sacn/

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Originally posted by Leon Roskilly:

'The dangers posed to the fishing industry by irresponsible conservation groups are clearly illustrated by the latest outburst from the Marine Conservation Society (MCS).

 

It has had the audacity to publish a Good Fish Guide that blacklists what it considers to be 20 alleged vulnerable species that should be avoided by consumers who are concerned about the marine environment


Thanks Leon for putting us on the right track (again ). Do you know where I can find a genuine list of endangered (native) species?

 

Tight lines

John S

Quanti Canicula Ille In Fenestra

 

Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow.

Species caught in 2016: Alder, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Crab Apple, Left Earlobe, Pedunculate Oak, Rock Whitebeam, Scots Pine, Smooth-leaved Elm, Swan, Wayfaring tree.

Species caught in 2015: Ash, Bird Cherry, Black-Headed Gull, Common Hazel, Common Whitebeam, Elder, Field Maple, Gorse, Puma, Sessile Oak, White Willow.

Species caught in 2014: Big Angry Man's Ear, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Common Whitebeam, Downy Birch, European Beech, European Holly, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, Wych Elm.
Species caught in 2013: Beech, Elder, Hawthorn, Oak, Right Earlobe, Scots Pine.

Species caught in 2012: Ash, Aspen, Beech, Big Nasty Stinging Nettle, Birch, Copper Beech, Grey Willow, Holly, Hazel, Oak, Wasp Nest (that was a really bad day), White Poplar.
Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.
Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew.

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Leon Roskilly:

As our Fisheries Minister, Elliot Morley, remarked recently.

 

'What is the point of of preserving the fish stocks if at the end of it you don't have a fishing industry?'

 

(Elliot, I'm not sure if I'm quoting you word for word.  My apologies if I don't have it exactly right)

Leon - if you are even close to quoting the man, I have to ask if his post is one from which impeachment is a valid option?

 

If he really does not see the point in preserving the wild/sea fish stocks at all costs, I'm really not sure what he is doing in the position.

 

[ 20 February 2002, 01:43 AM: Message edited by: Newt ]

" My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!" - Harry Truman, 33rd US President

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I read about this in tonight's London Evening Standard.

I was surprised to see that LSDs are also on the list, although I suppose that I shouldn't be, reading about the way some 'anglers' trat them.

 

Story on www.thisislondon.com and put fish in the search the site box.

 

Bob

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quote:


Originally posted by John S:

Thanks Leon for putting us on the right track (again ). Do you know where I can find a genuine list of endangered (native) species?

 

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The sad fact is that just about every species of fish that lives in UK waters is endangered and so are their habitats. :-(

Davy

 

"Skate Anglers Have Bigger Tackle"

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As unpalatible as it may seem. We need comercial fishermen? We cannot ask for government intervention in what could lead to, an amateur fishing fleet?

There must be room for both, those that take their pleasure from fishing. And those that feed their famillies by so doing?

I drink with many commercial fishermen. After we`ve cleared up the `You lot hate us!`. A quite decent conversation can be had.

We have to reach a compromise?

I`d hate to see the `Fluff Chuckers` lording it on the beach. Leaving hundreds of mackeral washing back and fro in the surf? Pretending that they were `real` fishermen?

Without some consideration for the commercial lads. That`s what we`ll end up with?

Paul.

We don`t use J`s anymore!!

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