[Centrepin Users]

ALL THE ABOVE REPLYS ARE FINE, but they do seem to think that, say £125 is cheap for what is, basically, just a reel. I see few drawbacks to them for trotting, they are great. However, there does seem to be some degree of sentimental/purist attitude about them....adcock stanton.aerial etc....I can tell you now that they have been superceeded.Just like say an E type Jag...looks grest, smells great , but with an engine that overheats big time, poor brakes etc......a modern car would out perform it big time.

OKUMA AVENTA PRO....About £80, reliable, dependable and spins like a dream. 5 yr warranty on okuma reels by the way....do the overpriced models, (youngs etc) even if they are still made, offer that ? My only quibble is that it comes in 1 size only, and the retrieve isn't very fast for long trotting.

My 2nd reel is a Leeds.Its 5.5" dia, so the retrieve is really fast. It will spin longer than the Adcock Stanton(I know as my mate has 1, and we tested them). The Adcock looks the part, (E type....) that much i will concede, but if someone offered me a straight swap I'd stick with the Leeds (10 yrs old now). (or i might swap, sell the adcock on ebay , buy a new Leeds and pocket the tidy difference !!) If you damage a pin, you can't buy a "spare spool" . I'd go for the okuma for general work and a large Leeds for long trotting. I don't work for either company. In case you wondered. Keith.

 

 

I sort of agree with you. The Okuma is, from what I've seen, a fantastic well made reel and if you're not prejudiced about it being made in the far east, is easily the best value reel out there. A lot of traditionally british companies have had to adapt to this, and I *believe* that companies such as Hardy, Youngs and so on now have much of their reels made in foreign parts, and assembled over here.

 

I think pins more than any other item of tackle seem to cause the most discussion and controversy. My personal feeling is the more you use one the more you know what you like. Or perhaps it's me being really fussy!

 

If I had £125 given to me today, I would genuinely go out and buy a Match Aerial (or a Fred Crouch version).

 

If somebody else was given it they would think I was crazy and make a bolt for the Sheffield.

 

You would pocket £70 and use the Leeds. And if that's good enough for you then good on you.

 

I guess that's the way it is! I just wish the new Greys Bewick I ordered from eBay a few years ago for £100 had turned up!)

[Centrepin Users]

Aye but there MUCH lighter than a Youngs Purist - not that I've got a Bisterne (would love one). I used to get chronic pain in my wrist trotting all day with a Purist. My 1920 Witcher is 100g lighter, may not sound much but it makes a big difference to my wrist strain!

C.

 

Nah, it's the thousand yards of fireline you loaded onto it that was the problem...

[John bailey guiding?]

Anyone looked at the photo of the pike on the lake section? Has it been doctored? The pike looks about 50lbs?!?!?

 

Rather large pike

 

The river and sidestreams look lovely.

 

 

That's probably one of those "hold the pike closer to the camera" shots! (or doctored photo as you say!!)

 

 

Not sure I'd pay that money to fish with Bob, John, or St Peter himself!

 

I'd rather fish with Chris Yates on one of those waterlog weekends.

[Centrepin Users]

Oh and unless your a rich dude with a very understanding wife then DON'T even look at anything from Dave Swallow,Chris Lythe or Witcher! and never look up Match Areials on Ebay!

 

 

Dave Swallow pins - too heavy and not that special. Just the Passion For Anglng thing that made them popular I think. The Adcock Stanton is a better pin IMO.

 

Witcher - doesn't make them any more (well, not at the moment). Not all are perfect but the good ones are rare and valuable. A couple of my mates have a Bisternes. There are only a dozen in existance I believe. Nice reels, but they are only valuable due to their rarety, they are no better at catching fish than, say, a Youngs Purist.

 

Match Aerials - not that expensive really - £125 will buy you a really good one. Your difficulty then is considering whether or not you want one (which will be over 30 years old) over an Okuma, or a Fred Crouch or similar.

 

Chris Lythe? You can order one, save £20 a month, and by the time you've got it delivered you'd saved up enough. The problem is whether or not you can wait long enough!!!

 

 

(My opinion, not trying to argue with ya Budgie!)

 

 

Personally, having owned quite a few pins now, I know what feels right and what doesn't. I have a Match Aerial which I adore and use for trotting, an Adcock which I don't really use, a Narrow Drum Speedia (wonderful - use it for barbel), a Chris Lythe (my favourite), and an 1930's pattern 9 Allcock.

 

I've sold my Garry Mills Barbel Catcher because I needed the money (and good as it was, the CL is better), and I sold my Youngs Bob James because it let me down a few times (grit kept getting under the bearings).

 

 

I'm sure I wouldn't be so obsessive about fixed spools. Odd, isn't it!

[Okuma Sheffield S1002 centrepin]

Dear spinsters

 

I know this topic has been done to death, but in your opinion is there a better centrepin for the price than the Okuma Sheffield S1002? They're about £120. They seem to be very highly regarded and I'm trying to decide what to ask Santa for this year...

 

Thanks

 

 

Well, yes there is a better reel - and that's an Okuma Sheffield for £110 ! (I have seen them advertised for this somewhere, can't remember where).

 

There will always be the odd ebay bargain which would potentially get you what "could be considered" a better reel for the money. To be honest though, the difference between one quality centrepin and another is largely down to style and preference. After all, it's just a simple mechanism at the end of the day. It's not like you are paying for a fixed spool where you either do or do not get a baitrunner, metal body or plastic, one spool or three etc, 1 ball bearing or 11!

 

And everything I've read suggests the Okuma is an excellent pin. My only personal thing against it is that it's a ball-bearing 'pin, and I prefer plain-bearing. This is just personal preference though.

[Catfishing with Leeches]

Catfishing is pretty well over for this year both here and the UK since the fish rarely bite in cold water. However, if you are planning to give them a try next year and want to avoid being bothered by other species, here is an idea that may work. It certainly does in the US and seems to in the UK as well.

 

 

 

Click Here

 

Newt

 

It does get used over here and works exceptionally well I believe.

 

I'd love to catch my first catfish and shall be investing in some of the little critters for next season!

[Question to the forum: kudos braid feeder 350 repair?]

Hi all,

 

Can anybody help with this visitors question to the forum?

 

The Visitor has been directed to this thread so could any answers / help be posted below. Cheers, Julian.

 

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Hi All,

 

I have just taken my kudos braid feeder 350 to bits to clean it at the end of my season and I now wish I had left it well alone! A spring shot out of the bail arm end and I don’t know how it fits back. Can anyone help please?

 

Cheers…

 

Tony

 

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The kudos reel is by leeda I think, so assuming this info I have is up-to-date, contact them here and ask for a schematic:

 

KUDOS REELS

Leeda Warranty Dept., 74 Alston Drive, Bradwell Abbey, Milton Keynes MK13 9HA

0800 0183790 sales@leeda.co.uk

[Repeat Question over the years ABU 507 Spares]

This just a bump to see if anyone can help .

Thanks

MDG

 

Depending on how desparate you are, there is a 507 Mk1 on eBay: ebay No. 130042936815

[Please help...]

Oh, dear God. I've not had it a week, and I've already been on the Chris Lythe website...

 

But what a wonderful experience to use one... !

 

If any of you are thinking about getting a centrepin for the first time, but are worried about all that is said about Wallis casting and tangles, etc.- stop worrying and get one! I got used to it very quickly, and by the end of my fishing session I was confidently casting to the far side of the river (maybe 15 yards) with ease.

 

I haven't had such fun fishing for a very, very long time.

 

 

If you're not careful you'll find this page...

 

http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/reviews/ChrisLythe.htm

 

 

 

 

And for God's sake, never... ever....EVER read this thread (on another forum, sorry Elton!)

 

http://www.questoutdoors.net/phpBB2/about172.html

 

[Please help...]

It's expensive, it's terminal, basically you're in big trouble....

 

(have fun!)

 

[how do you cast a centrepin reel?]

I'm going to upset all those who love their baitrunners here but what the hell!

 

The obvious use for a centrepin is trotting of course, but recently I've concentrated on barbel fishing. For this, a centrepin is, in my opinion, supreme over any other reel in all conditions except where a big chuck is required.

 

First, when legering with the rod in the rests waiting for the "three foot twitch" from a barbel. A centrepin, with the ratchet on, will both give line and give a nice audible indication of the bite. No need for anything fancy, and no Delkim's required!

 

More importantly though, when a big fish is being played, the sensitivity of your thumb to control the pin is the most perfect "drag" you can have. No amount of teflon discs and what-not can compete with it. And you can instantly stop the pin from giving any line at all, with simple pressure on the rim with your thumb.

 

It's a fantastic way of playing a fish, and if you've never tried it then do so. And the more you do, the better you'll become, the less you'll get into tangles, and the better and more accurate your casting will become (whatever method you choose!).

[how do you cast a centrepin reel?]

Best articles I ever read about wallis casting, were here:

 

part1:

 

http://www.fishing.co.uk/article.php3?id=736

 

and part 2:

 

http://www.fishing.co.uk/article.php3?id=752

 

I did a crazy little video which (I think) is in my signature below, which gives a tutorial of one method of this wallis cast. There are variations but the concept is the same.

 

 

That said, if you can't master the wallis cast, don't give up. John Wilson's style is also worth trying - can't really describe this easily but watch him when he's fishing a 'pin on go-fishing and it's fairly obvious what he's doing.

[Spare Spools]

eBay?

 

eg. items 270041413855 or 160040387172

[Angling contradictions :]

The gentle art of angling

 

and...

 

...the American way (speedboats and crash helmets!!!)

[Angling contradictions :]

Chris Yates

and

Bob James

[What line for a 'pin]

i use power pro in both 8lb[1-2lb mono] & 20lb[6lb mono] on my centre-pins or ultima flo cast (a new perminant floating mono line) [lowest b/s is 5lb]

 

I tried Fireline at the recommendation of Chris Plumb - this sort of braid (FL or PP) is excellent for controlling a float long-range with a long rod. 4lb FL is the same as 1lb, 6lb->2lb, 8lb->3lb. Not sure what the price difference is between the two.

 

My only reason for not using it all the time was that I tend to swap between modern rods and my cane rods with their older unlined chrome rings - braid tends to wear them out a bit too quickly!

[Worst waste of money]

Probably my pair of youngs "BJ" centrepins.

 

I suspect that a pair of Okumas would be just as good for 1/3 of the price, they just don't look as pretty!

 

Mat

 

and they'd probably be more reliable [than mine ever was!]

[Chub Record Gone?]

Glenn - its 9lbs NOT 9oz

C.

 

DOH! Geoff's scales again

[Chub Record Gone?]

Rumours circulating that pics in the press this week. Some debate whether its from the Thames or a still water - anyone know more?

C.

 

I can't tell you any more until I've sold my story to the angling times

[need a new reel]

only ment like bout £40 ... ish if possible even less but i will use it on my browning syntec feeder rod

 

 

 

 

http://www.rugbytackle.co.uk/fishing_match...01000,2500,4000,

[Pictures]

Hi,

everyone i was just wondering if you dont ming, would you post some pictures of your catches onto the reply cos i like looking at them and i am sure everyone else does cheers fellas

 

mitch

 

 

go on then

 

www.flickr.com/photos/glennsfish

 

including some of me when I was a real nipper!

[Can fish see red?]

Your vision is about 14 times better than most fish.

 

 

Speak for yourself!

 

OUCH! What was that...

 

 

[How To Cast A Centrepin]

well the format was going to be two or more anglers sat in a bar talking about fishing (or two guys descussing fishing in a lounge over a cup of tea ) when ane guy would bring out a centre-pin and he would explain to the other{s} about it as a introduction to a clip (he would turn to camera and say something like "letts see Glen smith demostrate a popular veriation of the Wallis cast" then the conversation would be used to introduce verious clips made by different people and as the other guys ask questions,the idea would be to get different people to make the clips by gentle persation,begging,bribery (get them drunk untill they agree) or downright blackmail and get them too make short 5-10 min clips

 

Right, so just an excuse for you to get hammered in a bar somewhere while we do all the hard work?

 

Next time I have an opportunity I'll see what I can do about doing a slightly better wally-cast one. I sort of rushed the last one.

[Centerpin Fishing]

Haha....It's big Cory, but not that big!!!!

 

And there was me thinking that you'd won that Witcher on Ebay the other day after it was withdrawn Glen....

 

 

Frankly these days I can't even afford to look at eBay, let alone buy anything! (says he who's just ordered a new cane barbel rod!)

[How To Cast A Centrepin]

Not a silly idea Steve... Put me down for a copy