[Cheap baits for carp,tench and bream...... etc]

My personal favourite is Luncheon meat.

At this time of the year it can be deadly. Not just fishing with cubes of it...also use a straw or a big pen to make pelleted luncheon meat.

I often use luncheon meat pellets when fishing for carp. You can make these any size you want and also the fish can easily suck em in.

You can dust the meat with groundbait if you like to change the flavours... i luv it

Many species will take this bait..if the little ones attack it try putting a larger lump or pellet on.

 

Sweetcorn is good as it can be coloured or flavoured. But many carp are wary of this stuff as its been fished with for so many years.. AKA the yellow peril..

 

Maggots...You can catch basically anything on them from gudgeon,minnow to carp and bream,..

 

Bread....

 

paste is cheap to make yourself..also if you catch a good fish on your home made paste its more rewarding..

 

Peas and beans also cheap..never fished with them but i have heard they can be great..

[Struggling to hit bites in the river (ADVICE NEEDED)]

Hi Tim, from your other post I realise it must be the Yorks Derwent your on about.

 

Would it be in the Kexby Bridge or Low Catton area that your having this problem?

 

If it is this area I know the feeling only too well!

 

About 10 to 12ft deep, a decent flow and the float shoots under, but nothing but a sucked maggot to show for it.

Some of the things I've tried (with varying amounts of success).

A small feeder But that depends on the flow.

Putting a fine wire 18 on, and hooking the maggot in the middle, similar to chavenders post. If your hooks sharp enough you shouldn't burst the maggot.

Over shotting the float and holding back hard, a long rod or pole helps in some swims.

Bulking shot 3/4 depth and then a string of No8s, moving the bottom 'tell tale' until the fish to bite ratio improves.

Using a 'stiffish' groundbait mix with very little feed, so they are 'fighting' over the maggots.

Feeding hemp and using casters or tares, can sort out the bigger fish, but your pushed for time in a match and might not want to sit it out waiting.

You might find that tiny gudgeon and roach aren't the only culprits, sometimes it's small eels, bleak or skimmers.

 

The other option is forgetting about the 'bits' and fishing a big bait, meat, lobworm, bread etc, and hope for one of the resident barbel, chub, or bream turn up. With lobworm don't be surprised if a pike, decent perch or eel takes it though!

 

The Yorks Derwent is probably the most frustrating river I've ever fished. It looks so good, but the fish can be so fickle, you sometimes wonder if there are any in there at all.

 

I hope this lot helps a bit, I found that one or a combination of a couple definitely improved things, but it's all about finding what works on the day.

 

Good Luck mate.

 

John.

 

Yeah the derwent is a hard river..so fustrating..like you said it all depends on the day really but i will try these tips in a practice session mid week on a night. i was just gutted the other day when i knew my peg was full of fish and i had only 2lb to show for it..

[Aldwark Bridge Near york (river ouse/ure)]

Not been for 3-4 years, but I gather it hasn't changed much, still a struggle.

Is it the Leeds & District stretch?

I've always preferred the bottom length, from the bridge up. The bottom (bridge) peg was good for a chub or two (feeder or lump of bread) and maybe the odd perch. The rest is much of a lottery unless you get a feature like a sandbed or tree. A couple of hundred yards up from the bridge there is a sandbed that I liked to float fish, it's a bit shallower there (about 8ft), I got the usual bits and the odd chub. Most pegs have about 12ft just past the rod, going to 20ft in the channel. Long rod/float tactics can produce, but most fish the feeder.

Finding the channel can be the key, if your on the inside of a bend it will be nearer to you than if you were on the outside. If you can fish on the edge of the channel you will find that the fish patrol this area, and it can be productive.

All the usual baits maggot, casters, bread, worm catch on their day.

 

I'm afraid that unless the bream move up from the Hunters Lodge stretch or the chub show then it will be the usual struggle, and a couple or three pounds will probably win your match.

 

Oh, and it can get busy with boats this time of year, sometimes this helps to stir things up near bank, and get the bits feeding.

 

John.

 

thanks for the insight..at least i have a little head start..

[Aldwark Bridge Near york (river ouse/ure)]

I have a match there this coming sunday with my local angling club and im just basically looking for any tips or info.

all i have heard is that its quite deep in places so im gonna take the long rod.

 

Has anyone fished it?

[Struggling to hit bites in the river (ADVICE NEEDED)]

the fish are just mouthing the bait and not taking it confidently ! try this little trick

of feedint the maggot up onto the hooks shank rather than the bend that way the hook point is either in the mouth or near the lips for a successfull hook up (9/10) .but there will always be the one that gets away .

 

Thanks for the tips guys.. will definately give them a try.

im gonna try the shotting pattern and also hooking up the shank to see if that helps. Although hooking it up the shank looks tricky..wont the maggot burst?

 

By the way..gudgeon win matches where i live..lol..

[Struggling to hit bites in the river (ADVICE NEEDED)]

Hi.. Im new to these forums but have been fishing for about 23 years now... i was fishing in my local fishing match yesterday using a rod and stick float..i didnt take my pole as i like using the rod on the river.

Anyway...i must of had a bite a throw on single maggot or pinkie all day ,but i could just not connect with them..i found that they were mainly gudgeon and the odd roach and dace biting too..

the gudgeon were medium to small in size.

i had a size 20 kamasan hook on..

the swim was 12 ft deep and running steady

 

i had a float about 1.2 gram on. all of my shot was at the bottom end of the line..

 

The float was absolutely buring and the bites just seem unmissable but i couldnt hit them lol..

Any advice would be appreciated..

There was a guy who weighed in with 6 pound of gudgeon at the end of the match but he wouldnt tell me how he was hitting them all the time. All he said was single maggot or pinkie and nowt else.

thanks