thuramario
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As many of you will know I've spent a lot of time perch fishing over several decades and so not surprisingly I have definite ideas on the ideal perch tackle.
Many times you'll get away with a standard float or Avon rod of the appropriate power. However, perch have a wafer-thin membrane behind the lips, and if the hook lodges here it's all too easy for it to be torn out when using a standard Avon rod, especially with the way a perch fights by shaking its head. Of course Sod's Law it'll be a monster that you'll lose!
It's therefore important to have a rod that'll cushion such a hookhold. At the the same time though you may need to cast a loaded feeder or a live/deadbait with a lead heavy enough to stay put and thus minimise resistance. In other words you want the delicate tip of a float rod coupled with the smooth power of an Avon rod.
I couldn't find such a rod on the market and therefore had to design my own. Luckilly I ran a rod-building firm at the time and so I was able to design exactly what I wanted. I spent a huge amount of time cutting up and experimenting with various sections of carbon, and eventually ended up with a 12¼ foot 3 piece rod with a test curve of 1lb 2ozs. I christened the rod the Fledger as it could be used for both float fishing and ledgering. In fact, together with the optional quivertip top it covers all my bait fishing requirements for perch.
I can thus take just 1 rod with me and this saves carting more about, plus it results in a considerable saving in cost!
Moreover, the Fledger has the option to take more powerful top sections with or without quivertips, and so inexpensively covers all my fishing for species like tench, bream, chub, barbel and mullet as well.
I'd add though I rarely use a quivertip when fishing for perch. The only time I do so is when fishing upstream. I've found that when quivertipping downstream big perch all too often feel the resistance and drop the bait. For downstream fishing I turn to touch ledgering, a bobbin or a drop-off indicator depending on the circumstances. For the same reason I never use a quivertip for perch in stillwater.
The last time this subject was brought up one of my former rodbuilders managed to find a handful of old Fledger blanks. Despite being retired though I kept on being asked for them – more so than any rod I’ve ever designed! A new batch has therefore been made and these blanks arrived a short while ago.
So if anyone is interested in having a custom-built Fledger made please e-mail me.
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With the current climate i have decided to focus most of my attention on big perch this winter. The biggest so far i have caught is just shy of a pound. There is an area (2 areas actually) of cannal in wigan were these bigger perch can be found. I have only caught them on maggot before but that was years ago when i was just starting. Since they go for red bait, what bait could i use to ditter the little gudgeon and perch but still atract the big perch. Also how do perch feed, do the tend to feed up or on the bottom. I have only cought them on the bottom before but have noticed the shape of their mouths and wondered if i would have better sucsess fishing up in the water with a constant supply (little and often) of free offerings? also what groudbaits attract perch as sweet attract bream, hemp tench etc, i have never heared of a perch attractor.
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Hi there all,
this is my first ever post on here.................
I live in Wigan where (so iM told) there are lots of ponds/lakes etc.
My problem is that I dont drive and was wondering if there are other anglers out there that might invite me along? Obviously I would pay for petrol etc......
I think this is an idea that should be adopted by more people in order to help the anglers that are unable to get to the decent ponds and also help the anglers that can get there keep their costs down.
i am in exactly the same boat, no car, in wigan. i have a small tackle system and go everywere on my bike (your never more than 20 mins away from anything in wigan), plus everyone lives close to the canal so get in there, i have seen nearly every type of fish and good sizes come out of their so ya never know what your gonna catch.
Do you live nr scotchmans flash? There are a few good waters there to go at. Westwood is a good one, then there's Blackwaters. There's even the canal which I know is fishing well nr the giro bank at the Lochs.Tigger.
giro bank is fishing very well, 5lb plus breams regularly coming out, plenty of perch 1lb plus and pike a plenty.
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hmmmm i'v seen for myself pole anglers outcatching carp fishermen in the daytime (and some splendid fish as well) ,night fishing isnt just about fishing its getting out from everyday life ,its camping with the chance of catching fish.
i love night fishing especially using the float but ledgerings fine as well and i love camping as well
me to, at night you truly get the world to yourself. no kids, or dogs running in your swim, just a few mates, the radio on low and a few cold ones, awsome.
i like how loud the waterside gets with wildlife aswell.
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Step up a gear ehhh. You could always broaden you horizons, get on a fishing boat for some cod, pollack, nice little conger eel or blonde ray, bass, turbot and you can eat some if you wish, haven't got board yet.
me and a few mates are gonna give it a go (just for a fun day out), i thing were gonna start with mackerel and then use them for something bigger. do you know any good skippers in the north west.
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I know the feeling - you put in loads of effort for very little reward. It won't be wasted though, when you come round to tench fishing again next year you'll be way ahead. There's only so much punishment you can take - I recommend putting the tench on hold until next April, May and June (they'll be far easier to catch then, and bigger) and switching to perch and chub for the autumn.
Certain species are better prospects as the season progresses, and this is very lake in the year for tench fishing. At this time of year, low light conditions, especially dusk, and mild weather are generally very good for all species. The first few cold days can knock everything dead for a few days, but if it stays cold the fish will acclimatise. It's a time of year for short, sharp targetted sessions - 2 hours before dusk and 1 after is often all you need.
cheers anderoo, just what i wanted to hear, thanks for the boost (i do think come next year i will get one having had a few on this year allready). infact i am gonna try fishing in march for them, what with global warming etc, thought it might go for instead of against us for a change. was thinking about perch fishing (maggot), pike fishing (lure/spinner/jelly) and chub in the river.
could do with some advice on the chub front as it wasnt a species i thought i was ready for seen as i have not fished the river much at all (im a canal and pond/lake guy). what line, method and locations would be a good start (was thinkin swim feed, (hemp groundbait, luncheon chunks and cut worm), worm and meat on a 14hook, 4lb hooklength, 5lb mainline), probably next to some weeds were the river meanders and fish in the slow moving water on the inside, actually there is a river section that meets up with another like a fork in the road, maybee their). any advice always welcome.
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Two of us thought the same thing so maybe it's your explanation and not my judgement that's lacking....hmm?
was not expecting to get into a cat fight lol.
anyway enough of the judging. i thought this website was for advice n chat. nevertheless i appreciate your input. incidently how would you feel in your third year of fishing having spent all summer chasing a tench, only to catch a handfull of roach (1oz - 1lb), and a few bream (2lb - 5lb)?
well thats me, hence the advice for a change of tactic. i dont do bordem, i simply try, try n try until i can do it. but figgured out, by chatting online that maybee the time to catch tench this year has passed. (thats not boredem my freind, "common sense" i think you will find lol).
anyway feel free to question my tactics and tecniques at all times (i can only learn from such instances).
cheers, Thuramario.
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You're bored of catching small fish because you think you've sussed them out, you've caught no tench and now you want something bigger? I think you lack patience.
not at all, i have caught no tench, but will continue to try its just i think that the time of year might be wrong for tench, so maybee i should wait until next spring before tench fishing. i dont lack patience at all, i fish all day, through the night and the day after if i have the time, sometimes up to 2 times a week and even when i am not catching i am enjoying the environment im in. your judgement couldnt be more wrong lol.
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Far to big a topic to answer on here but I always increase my chances of a good days fishing by targeting the right species for the prevailing conditions.
what conditions what fish if you dont mind me asking.
the reason i am asking all these questions is that i have sussed bream, skimmer, roach, and other small fish (i think) and i am desperate to step it up a gear, dare i say it i might be getting a little boared of fishing (well at least the style of fishing i am doing). i am desperate for big fish and really want to increase my chances as i have spent all of the summer chasing tench, and nothing. had to do a bit of bream fishing just for my sanity lol.
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bob nudd states in "bob nudds guide to fishin on the waggler" (see you tube) that most fishermen do a standard overhand loop to conect lines. bob preffered a swivel with a half tucked blood knot for each line. he said that in order to get strength in your overhand loop their has to be a figure 8 in their (kinda like the blood knot) he does this for the camara but its hard to make out, does anyone know any good sites or pics so i could find it. many thanks
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i was on you tube yesterday and watched bob nudds guide to waggler fishing. Two points i would love your opinions on;
Firstly the use of a swivel. I like this idea as i pressume it is taylor made to prevent tangles (as your line's r seperated they can sipn independantly) but also like the idea of the wieght already bieng next to your hooktie (which is where i would put a very small shot anyway). Does anyone use these and what r their effectiveness e.g. do you get through loads of them.
Secondly the overhand loop. I use this to connect my lines and even twist the line (learned from a match angler) so my line is tight (which is why i am curious to the swivel), however bob nudd said that most anglers do this the wring way and showed us how to do it. the quality is so bard its hard to tell but he does mention a figure 8 (like the one used in the blood knot). i cannot get a figure 8 into my overhand loop so advise would be greatly appreciated (i have already visited the usual website).
cheers
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Unlucky, but it sounds like you're getting closer - keep trying
It sounds like you're just having a little run of bad luck (and we've all been there, believe me). The blokes who turned up - and yes, that must have been annoying! - probably just happened to be in the right spot, that's all. If the conditions are similar next time you go, fish where they were fishing if you can.cheers for the support guys lol
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i went to a patch were tench have been caught today (i was their the other day and had 3 tench on but the rig i used was old and i dont think the hooks were sharp enough as i kept slipping straight out of the mouth/possibly not striking as hard as i should for a bigger fish), i fished from 5pm till dark. my swim was full of big fish, so much so that on two occasion a massive fish jumped out of the water just inches from my float (i **** myself). i have never seen so much action on this pond, but only got one slight bite about an hour into my fish. it was quick and cagy, i decided it wasnt enough to strike and that it would surely be back in a bit. that was my lot. to make matters worse 4 men, all bladdered and stuff set up about 50yrds away from me at 8pm. they were makin loads of noise and in half an hour they had 2 5lb plus tench. i packed up and went home just after asking them how they had done it (the only difference was hook size. he was on a 10 with 3-4 peices of corn, i was on 14 with one peice on it. am going back on sunday with that approach, if i dont get one i am calling it a day, i dont think i can cope with the dissapointment again lol).
just thought i would let ya all know seen as you have helped me get this far at least.
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You can`t beat a large gape
why is that?
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i will do some online surfing and see what i come up with (I thought the question was a biggie lol). cheers for the help anyway.
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so i take it it isnt a case of one size fits all?
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i wonder if i could make fishing more productive by fishing the right fish at the right time. e.g. tench in may cos they r breeding (that was just a guess as an example, i have no idea when any of them breed). im thinking if i get this info i could plan a season and target the right fish at the right time (with the right bates), giving me the edge over my mates lol. i only fish cannals, lakes, rivers and ponds (no fisheries), and fancy myself as more a specimen fisherman (i think thats when you target certain fish) so this would be helpfull.
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dont know why im asking questions like this at 2.42 am, guess im hooked. my birds uncle (keen matchman fisherman) swears on a large gape, short shank. i have had my good fishies on long shank small gape (barbed, micro mostly). all the experts out their give us your opinion so i dont have to spend at least 30 mins looking at all the hooks in the fish shop lol.
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I've reached the stage where I don't feel confident with any bait unless it is hair rigged. In fact it feels incredibly strange to put a hook through a bait. How on earth did I ever used to catch fish on worms?
yeah i understand with worms n the like but meat is pretty soft, can the hook not glide through that with a decent strike?
whats better strike rate?
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im no expert (thats something we can all agree on), but i am not having this method is any good. my mate swears by it. the way i see it i would rather have the hook in the mouth and miss, than never have the hook in the mouth to begin with, yes when you strike i imagine it is with more force as the hook doesnt have to penetrate through the bait in order to hook, but surley you can miss..............cant you? and surely just the sight of the hook MAY scare them, it would scare me lol. maybe i give fish to much creddit than they deserve, but i have found the sneakiest approaches have always worked better in fishin for me. also off the subject i have just started learning knots (i feel lke a scout), so now i want to know which is the best e.g. the strongest, and the most subtle. (for hooks and ties). cheers
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appreciate the links guys but even more confused (i usualy get it eventually so not to worry), so i have printed out the rig and am takin it to my local shop, im sure once i see it done b4 my eyes i will be all over it like flies..., well ya know the rest. cheers.
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i think he's doing what i used to - feed the feeder straight onto the mainline and put 2 shot either side of it to lock it in place. you're probably snagging something bringing it back and as it's unable to move up the line, its snapping the line by the feeder. either get a snap swivel and some rig tube or use a patenoster
whats a snap swivel and how does it work?
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That should be fine.I would place my bet on it being the way you are using shot as a stop.
so what r these beads and how do i use them, if i bead over the not i will still need two shots (one either side) to hold the bead in place, wouldnt i?
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im on the pole, with a 12 elastic, 5lb line, 4lb hooklength. this was set up by my fishing shop owner, so dont have the flexibility of a rod. is this gonna be a problem?
Recommendations for Perch rod.
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as x-mas is round the corner i am interested in the fledger rod. as far as i know this is both a match rod and a quiver (is that right). ideal for perch fishing, i presume all sizes?