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Guest Stephen
Posted

Hi all........

 

I was just wondering about Touch Legering how it's done the right way?

 

I saw some guy touch legering using a centre pin reel, just holding the line twitching for bites!

 

The River is very weedy so false bites can be a possibility, I have personally seen, Carp, Barbel, Roach, Pike, perch....

 

Baits the guy was using a Paste, Bread, worms..........

 

When I'm touch legering does the bomb still move along the swim? Or do I make it shallower then the river?

 

Can anyone give me some help/advice on how too touch leger too get rid off those false bites & start pulling them in from the river bank....

 

Thanks if anyone needs any more info ill get back too yah.........

 

Steve,

Guest Graham E
Posted

Steve, I will happily try to give you advice but need to know whether the guy was inching the bait through the swim or using a static bait.

 

Whichever method he was using there are some important considerations for it to be effective.

Guest Stephen
Posted

Im not sure about that, sorry.....

 

I dont quite get what you mean either? He was using a paste or Bread?

 

If thats any help,

 

thanks,

 

Steve

Posted

My way is to hold the rod around the reel seat and hook finger around the linemaintaining tension. The same applies here as if using a quivertip as the bait/leger moves it registers on the tip so it will register on your finger.Touch legering can be done in conjunction with a tip so you can see as you feel.I do use a rod rest at times so if needs be I can go to watching the tip if I need a drink etc.I find that by touch legering I am striking before I realise what has happened.John

Guest TheDacer
Posted

As opposed to a static bait, if you fished without too much weight on, you can sort of inch the bait along the bottom. Hold it still. Then inch it a bit more. Make it jump about and flutter. The fish see it as acting quite natural and take it with some venom.. Bread's good for this. Gets some big fish where you may have thought there were none :-)

Guest Chris Plumb
Posted

On lakes - I'll fish the margins,very light (in terms of leads), may be just a couple of bb's. And touch ledgering allows you to inch the bait through the swim - something I find tench find irristible.

 

On rivers it depends whether I'm static ledgering or rolling a bait. Static - really no different to what you would normally use - touch ledgering is really about bite detection - and particularly if you use braid you can almost feel what's going on - and can often connect with the most tentative of 'rustles'. These are bites you would simply not get to the rod quick enough and there are times I'm convinced that I'd have blanked had I not been touch ledgering.

 

Rolling a bait using a drilled bullet almost demands that you touch ledger and it doesn't take too long before you pick up the different 'feel' of various riverbeds. The trick here is not to use too heavy a lead - one that you can dislodge with ease and trundle through your swim.

 

 

Chris

 

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[This message has been edited by Chris Plumb (edited 31 July 2001).]

Guest Chris Plumb
Posted

Forgot to add - it really helps to have a chair with arms when fishing in this way. You'll get tired quickly without some support for your arms. I bought a Shakey high back chair almost specifically for this purpose - it's also very comfortable!! Steve Burke's done a review on 'em in the reviews section.

 

Chris

 

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"Study to be quiet."

Guest Steve Burke
Posted

I don't do much river fishing these days as most of the rivers within easy reach of Folkestone are still recovering from pollution. Unless of course any of you know better.......

 

However, years ago I fished rivers most of the time and did an awful lot of touch ledgering. I don't believe there's a "right" way of doing so and opinions seem to differ on the finer points

 

In particular, most anglers hold the line in their left hand (assuming they're right handed) when touch ledgering. This allows some loose line to be released on getting a bite. I prefer to hold the line in the fingers of my right hand, i.e. the one that holds the rod. On getting a bite I push the rod towards the fish to give it some line. The advantage is that you have one hand free, plus I find it more comfortable.

 

It's well worth learning how to touch ledger. It takes a little time to become proficient, but it's nowhere near as hard as some will have you believe. The best water to learn on is one where there's a reasonable current and where you get plenty of bites.

 

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Guest Graham E
Posted

Steve Burke is right, there isn't a right way!

 

The reason I asked earlier regarding type is that my style varies according to static or moving baits.

 

On Static, I hold the rod in the right hand and(this is important to me)using a rest for the middle, have the rod butt base across my top right leg with my arm along the butt.

My left hand pinches the line feeling for bites or slackening. I could never have a chair with armrest, they get in the way.

 

On moving baits, I fish standing up, and pull off the reel as much line as I can with

my left hand. The bait is worked down, across, or towards me from upstream by using the slack line in my left hand. By habit on the strike I also yank the free line.

 

Regarding bite detection, as Steve says it really is much easier than you think, often like an electric shock. Of course you also frequently feel something prior to a bite, although being practically indiscernable you don't register it fully at the time.

 

To give Stephen confidence I frequently touch leger 50 yards downstream for fish with a massive loop between tip and bait and if anything the bites are even more noticeable than under the rod tip!

 

 

[This message has been edited by Graham E (edited 02 August 2001).]

Guest NigelT
Posted

I find it very difficult to touch leger in conjunction with a quiver tip. The tip absorps alot of the bite before anything is felt by the hand holding the rod. I have noticed that when fishing in this way during daylight there could be a slight indication on the tip without any feeling transmitted down the line. I suspect that bites detected in this way are from fish that have already hooked themselves.

 

I generally use a relatively stiff rod and point it towards the end tackle to minimise any absorbing effect the rod may have. The friction of rod rings and the bend in the rod tip plays quite a considerable part in how much the 'feel' of the bite is transmitted down the line, and ultimately to the fingers that are trying to detect that bite.

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