barry luxton

Quote your headline: Maybe Corbyn was right and Labour ‘won the argument’ after all? Hahahahaha, 4 million labour voters were let down by their political bents. That's why very many supported boris. Your really suffering digging your sand pit political hole without anything To shore it up with.

your having a laugh, from the big issue to the times, your a rather big swinger ain't you, as I don't subscribe to the times, can you copy and paste to read about whatever you are on about.

yes I did enjoy reading that, I first read it 7 years ago, that was the time Hammond supported leaving the e u as did Corbyn. Boris was referring to the u k needs to get it 's finger out, as for Brexit, it had nothing to do with it, weren't even on the table as Cameron hadn't gone bleating to the megliomaniniacs at that time. You trying to offer up history lessons, got anything of value to read. You checked the author of this link, he writes for the big issue, do you participate in taking that one? However, it is clear both of those guys did a 180. ignoring the will of the referendum, where are they now I have to ask. and as for boris, he has got the message and got with the programme of supporting the wishes of the electorate, hence the downfall of those other two useless articles.

yet again within your own small e u protected bubble, you keep on quoting the 70 billion loss, you clutch at straws in the belief that leaving your nirvana will be disastrous. Yet again you don't read or comprehend what is within your link, i'll do it for you with copy and paste. Note included are the words clearly telling you that the money hasn't been spent, it is an assumption, a guestimate, a could be, might be possibility. One thing for sure the out of the 27 countries 8 have money to spend (Belgium never will as it takes twice as much out as it puts in) but due to their fragile quantative eased economies they don't want to spend it and it is becoming weaker with less value by the day. The e u does not have an answer for growth and prosperity, what it is, is a protectionist political trading block, who will now spend all it's efforts in becoming more politically constrained, while espousing the apolitical lie, also without anyone providing their mandate to. it has been sussed out.Why do you want to remain? You need a new campaign to latch onto, the labour opposition need help in clearing out the momentous Marxist left wing, how about that one, give it 150% support and it may become something viable or fit for purpose, perhaps. quote your link: 91p per person per day assumes that the cost of Brexit has been around £66 billion in the three years since 2016. This might have been taken from a report by the financial services company Standard and Poor’s, which estimated the same cost in the two and a half years since the 2016 referendum. That’s a slightly different time period, but it doesn’t make a big difference to the numbers. The graphic misrepresents what Standard and Poor’s found. It didn’t say £66 billion had been “spent” on Brexit (presumably by the government); it estimated that Brexit had cost the UK economy £66 billion in terms of lost GDP growth. This doesn’t mean the economy got £66 billion smaller—it means that UK GDP would have grown by £66 billion more had the UK not voted to leave, according to this estimate.

you wanna see the u k save some expenditure, look at this lot it's no longer going to support. Civil servant staff working for the EU: 32,000 EU Commission 7,500 EU Parliament 3,500 Council of the European Union This does not include MPs and their staff. In 2017 this costed around 6% of the EU budget of £157.9 Billion (somewhere in the region of £9.75 BILLION) And: Around 120 cars are put on for the 751 MEPs to make the 450km (280 miles) journey from Belgium to France, however the vast amount of officials do not take up the offer. The fleet of vehicles is understood to cost the EU millions each year. In November, just 25 MEPs were driven to the plenary session in Strasbourg.

yawn for b c, 5% of u k companies trade into the e u block, yet 100% of u k companies have to comply with 100% e u law and legislation. And those countries outside of the e u that the u k trade with, the u k have to collect tariffs and send it off to brussels, plus vat.

ahh it's one of your own facts then if there is no evidence, got it. yes I understand, wishful thinking? I have to be fair and allow some latitude cod, it is so easy to counter and prove all your writings are not fit for purpose. and I also don't have to answer to you I not at your beck and call. You haven't confirmed that you will drop your protest of e u hugging, when Brexit happens, that will be all you have left. Get with the programme. Not too late to change your mind cod, this guy looks like he has. go for it. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1222536/brexit-news-gary-lineker-match-of-the-day-general-election-boris-johnson

yup, give us a link to this travesty your portraying.

you think you have evidence of financial doldrums for the u k by using an e u loving company who enjoy the one way traffic of having all the e u's honchos to speak to invited audiences as proof and factual reality of your Brexit plight. It don't cut any ice, so provide something more credible. Before the referendum the pound was at a artificial high and adjustment downwards was not only beneficial but an advantage as well, exports up as well you know. What do you recon on the price of fuel. I think the cost hasn't got any higher since the vote. According to your assumptions it should be nearer 1.60-1.70 by now. and now you are using hypothetical assumptions of what if's. Second referendum would obviously lead to more uncertainly and keep farage busy with the best of 3. There has been four or five confirmations of what the u k voted for in 2016 including the latest support, mandate given to boris, c/o losses to Corbyn and co to get Brexit done. It's over, get with the programme. Brexit is nearly with us. France is preparing it's crossings with border checks and the u k need to do the same. You seen that piece where the e u is importing dodgy pet dogs into the u k, that's before Brexit. New border checks are not only required but vital to prevent shiet being imported from the e u who's regulations don't match sense and sensibility.

yet again you missed reading and understanding the evidence you link. you would do better cherry picking and deleting the positive bits out if you wish to remain slagging off what in reality is projected for the u k. Is it not the case readers of that paper have to take anti depressants, just like the Robert Maxwell paper you covert. from your link: The pound has rallied strongly and stock markets have surged in recent weeks amid hopes that Johnson’s new government, with an 80-seat majority, can make progress towards smoothly extracting Britain from the EU. There are also hopes for stronger economic growth spurred by a splurge in government spending. The FTSE 100 has raced ahead since the election on the back of the unexpectedly large Tory majority and amid signs of a breakthrough in the US-China trade war – a dispute that has dragged down global trade volumes and harmed economic growth around the world this year.

sussed it. big clod has copied it from the Robert Maxwell rag, aka the daily mirror socialist 'news' spread and within it is kev maguire, aka mystic mag. Just knew clod couldn't invent all his premonitions on his own. I won't put up the link regarding this guro's fly on the wall predictions, premonitions as to how he sees reality with assumptions and guestimates of reality. However I have copied a brief sample of what is going through authors bonce. Mystic Mag checks his crystal ball to predict 2020’s big events. Will Boris Johnson be found out? What does the future hold for Labour? Should we brace ourselves for four more years of Trump? Will the FBI feel Prince Andrew’s collar? And what about Brexit? The stakes are high with the only certainty being an alarming uncertainty for the next 12 months. Brexit Cynical liar Boris Johnson wants Brexit talk banned because he knows it won’t be done by the end of January. The UK is leaving Brussels’ political institutions but little changes immediately as we remain in the customs union and single market until at least the end of 2020. My hunch is the Tory charlatan fails to negotiate a £600billion free trade deal by December 2020 and instead of Brexitgeddon he begs for an economic lifeline. The £350million a week NHS Brexit dividend never existed.

ahhh right, quote you: every single economic data says our economy will nose dive with leaving the EU Errrrmmmmm is that the singular or plural? Show us the links please, we need your education on the benefits of remaining in the political e u trading block that no one has provided a mandate to. And these cuts, have you even contemplated the two new aircraft carriers along with the all new lightning 11squadrons . Can you provide your data re the cuts and the allowance for this expenditure? 10,000 jobs created in the build alone btw. Including generating squiilions for the u k with regards to the uk's research and development and creation of the electronics required for all of these planes, worldwide. Did you know that or even considered that? psssst, do you know what capabilities Russia have for their mobile air fields, at the last count they have a second hand aircraft carrier that belches black smoke while navigating. Forgot to add, it caught fire just before Christmas. so in reality you will have to concede that the u k is doing rather well in comparison, wont you?

what latest stats are they then, you don't need to quote all of them, a sample will do just fine, show us the links or is this another one of your invented prophecy's that will not come to fruition

your a leg end in your own little world aren't you. Ignoring what is in front of you without providing anything what so ever to back up your wonderful nirvana of remaining in the e u. Even now you claim that England is to become isolationist while leaving a corrupt political empire that no one has ever provided their mandate to. Sell us the idea of remaining, you can do that can't you. lets look at the benefits, off you go. Make it your life's mission. Tell us who you support politically, can't be the hated tories, your distancing yourself from Corbyn and abbott, odious odonnel, who is left for you to show allegiance to? Obrien? Brexit national debt, really. Where you thinking of migrating to cod. As sure as eggs are eggs the tories will be in for a decade at least and I can't see your mate trump failing in his second term, can you.

jesuuus b c what link have you provided now the holy grail or is it the holy brail as a blind person can see through the spin, has abbott given this guy who has never fished in his life licence to print that guff. the e u boats take 60% yup he then goes on about historic rights and quota, in particular the quota that the u k boats sold. As the e u allow u k interests 13% quota year on year, where does the rest come from to make up the 60% Threats of delay, tariffs, blady blah work both ways, it's as if the eu megliomaniniacs are giving the u k something to sell into their market, they are giving nothing, they need u k imports innovations, financial and fish if you like. I also note the dic mentions the .5% gdp, you can fall for that I won't. They threaten to close their markets if the u k closes it's resource that they have plundered for 40 years, historic rights? guff of the higest order and you want us to consider that if we don't comply it's gonna be bad, bring it on I say project fear rides again. Closing ports to u k boats, really. You can fall for that shiet I won't. Checked the bbc today, no news reporting of the 600 permanent places for apprentices announced, that's with the company who developed the world's, head up displays in aircraft. They get involved with submarine electronic innovation. avionics in attack helicopters, sell world wide. Not bad for the u k who you claim will become little Britain. GEC-Marconi Avionics In 1993 yet again the company name changed to GEC-Marconi Avionics Ltd comprising the former GEC Avionics, GEC-Ferranti Defence Systems, GEC Sensors and GEC Aerospace businesses. This organisation was announced on 5 January 1993 and came into effect on 1 April 1993 and finally in 1998 it became Marconi Electronic Systems Ltd. Go look 'em up b c. My next door neighbour who is a nuclear scientist has just retired from that co. And further news for the u k, 15years of growth, that's without other trade deals the u k WILL secure following Brexit, including the usa. The latest revised data from the Centre for Economic and Business Research suggests Britain’s economy to grow annually by 1.9 percent from 2019 to 2024 and by 1.5 percent each year between 2024 and 2034.

errrmmm, totally agree, even though I haven't spent a penny piece on either of those competitions.

quote me: 999 pages, come on b c your turn, provide some inspiration. quote b c: Ho , ho , ho value of fish removed by the e u with no benefit to the u k 30 billion plus. value of payments into the federal political single market 500 billion, to trade with a permanent deficit of 50 billion per year. Value for money. Single market with 27 countries and 450 million populous, the u k trades with 8 countries, the rest have no monies to spend. Of the 8 countries, I have a surplus, while the rest, their economies are in the doldrums, high unemployment with no future, and no plan for growth or prosperity, apart from printing money. New Head of the e c b, a convicted criminal. Freedom of movement, with no control of what or who is crossing the e u's continent. Give us all a clue as regards to this brexit accountability, cod.

nope, squarely on the remainiacs to provide facts showing the benefits of remaining in the federal political expansionist regime, where not one person has ever provided a mandate to be part of it. in particular I am still looking after all this time credible argument to justify the benefits to the u k of being part of the c f p, where European boats take twice as much fish out of u k waters than the u k boats. And as a consequence the whole of the u k's coastal communities are treated as second class citizens, many being ruled by e u restrictions on their fishing, angling while those Europeans who enjoy the benefits are also the ones who have caused shortages of the fish stocks. Looking forward to the time the management was taken away from those e u megliomaniniacs. then there is the c a p, where sugar refiners and landowners are paid huge amounts of taxpayers monies to produce nothing what so ever, in the name of food security. Where are the benefits to the u k, 40% of nearly all tax payers money goes into the c a p . Lower end of that scale Spanish farmers being paid tax payers monies to produce bulls for bull fighting, food security, yer right. Why has Poland been paid 200 billion over and above cap and cfp payments, who agreed that one I have to ask? Tax payers where never asked, that's for sure. And as said fone, no one has ever been asked for their mandate to belong to this federal political machine. Comment from the net today, Churchill commented we are part of Europe not of it. And if the u k was to choose, Europe or the open sea it would choose the open sea. Fear not Gozzer this topic will walk it, I can feel it in me water. 999 pages, come on b c your turn, provide some inspiration.

why are you attempting to denigrate Brexit with a history lesson, it's 3 months old. Have you also checked out it's provenance? quote: The Centre for European Reform is an award-winning, independent think-tank that seeks to achieve an open, outward-looking, influential and prosperous European Union, with close ties to its neighbours and allies. The CER’s work in pursuit of those aims is guided by the same principles that have served us well since our foundation in 1998: sober, rigorous and realistic analysis, combined with constructive proposals for reform. and it is so one sided and lop sided it stinks. The CER’s engagement with senior figures in Europe is reflected in the speakers we attract to our events. In recent years, guests have included Emmanuel Macron, Martin Selmayr and Michel Barnier. These high-level contacts enhance the accuracy of our analysis and enable us to refine our proposals, both in publications and in the private briefings that we provide to senior officials, ministers and European commissioners. quote again: realistic analysis, combined with constructive proposals for reform. The reason why Brexit is going to happen is due to intransigence and lack of accountability, far more close to reality than anything you can put up.

not for the want of tryin

bump, couldn't resist,

lord Lawson this morning, former chancellor, look up the word global cod and the second to last paragraph is also financially correct, very subtle of the german economist: quote: “But these are, of course, precisely the same bankers who some 15 years ago were saying it would be disastrous for the City if the UK were to keep the pound sterling and not adopt the euro.” The Brexiteer also revealed how even a German economist and Financial Times European correspondent, Wolfgang Münchau, had agreed with him in saying that leaving the bloc would be particularly beneficial for Britain. While launching an attack against europhiles, Lord Lawson added: “This eurocentricity I find appallingly parochial. “While London is certainly not just a British financial centre, it is not just a European financial centre either. “London is one of the only two truly global financial centres in the world. “The other being New York and it is the only one in the European time zone – which is an advantage and one which of course will remain.” He continued: “When I developed this case publicly for the first time earlier this year, I was surprised to find a strongly supportive article in the Financial Times, by their most knowledgeable perceptive European columnist, the German Wolfgang Münchau. “Under the heading, Lord Lawson is right, he pointed out that for the United Kingdom, maybe different for some other countries, but for the United Kingdom, membership of the Single Market, carries higher costs than benefits. “He concluded in these terms: ‘There may be reasons why the UK may wish to remain a member of the EU but, whatever they are, they are not economic.’” Many thanks for adding the L B C link b c, as a member i'm entitled to leave comments, obrian is fixated with the e u's political federal expansionist regime. Is that where you gain all your despondency from.

good news for coastal communities, Corbyn, limp dems and the e u will hate this. Boris did say you ain't seen nothing yet. Goods entering free ports are exempt from import taxes and tariffs and often benefit from simplified regulations, helping bring economic success to locations such as Singapore and Hong Kong. The UK is currently prevented from establishing such zones as an EU member, but by integrating free ports with local enterprise zones, they would become “super charged”, providing a major boost to regional economies. According to a 2018 report by The Telegraph, if Mr Johnson was to build seven “supercharged free ports”, offering relief from customs and import tariffs together with enterprise zones that have tax incentives to boost investment, he could create as many as 150,000 jobs and add £9billion a year to the economy. In August, Secretary of State of International Trade Liz Truss unveiled a new Freeports Advisory Panel to advise the Government on the establishment of up to 10 free ports, meaning the boost to the economy could be even higher.

As this topic is closing down how about you opening a take the 'p' topic or a fisheries one, go on hero make a name for yourself. Have a read of what's below following your crimbo dinner, I hear morrisons are dropping the name of brussels from sprouts due to Brexit some allege. Anyway you need to understand that scalloping needs management and what is posted below isn't new and many ifcas have already placed restriction on the number of dredges each side to limit the size of the boats inshore. And with the many protected areas now on stream, your claim that all need to be banned is somewhat farcical. Note the word harvesting and also where even the bigger boats return to the same areas. You need re education mate. quote: The makeup of the vessels prosecuting the English scallop fishery varies significantly. At one extreme there are the large (up to 37metres in length) full time scallop dredgers, capable of pulling up to 42 scallop dredges in any weather and fishing continuously for days at a time. These vessels are often described as ‘nomadic’ due to the wide geographical areas they will fish - traditionally anywhere around the UK coast they believe there are significant quantities of scallops. These vessels tend to fish intensely in an area until harvesting scallops becomes unprofitable. They will then move on to new areas but will return a number of years later when the scallop stocks have returned to a level where dredging for them has once again become viable. Due to this fishing pattern a large scallop dredger may operate in 4 or 5, or even more, areas and rotate around them over a period of several years. These nomadic vessels are exclusively English or Scottish. There are also large vessels prosecuting the fishery who will beam trawl for part of the year but switch to scalloping on an occasional seasonal basis, particularly if access to sole is limited. Recently there have been signs that this seasonality is breaking down and many of these vessels now target scallops all year round. 6. At the other end of the spectrum are the smaller, inshore vessels, including some who will only fish for scallops on a part time basis, and others who rely on scallops for the majority of their income. These vessels are restricted, primarily by their size, in the areas and weather that they can fish meaning that they are likely to dredge for scallops only in their local area. The catching capacity of these vessels is significantly lower than the large vessels due to the lower number of dredges they can tow. 7. Maintaining a viable small scale scallop fleet requires a sustainable crop of scallops for harvesting over a full season. In most instances this will be unachievable without some measure of protection from large vessels capable of fishing long trips, intensively in conditions which keep smaller vessels in harbour. The large vessels can quickly deplete local grounds leaving local vessels with no fishable stock for the remainder of the season. This has been addressed successfully in the English 0-6 nautical mile (nm) zone where Inshore Fisheries and Conservation Authorities (IFCAs) have introduced byelaws (Annex 1) restricting the activities of larger vessels or prohibiting their access to the fishery completely. Outside of 6nm, IFCAS have no powers to introduce byelaws and there are currently no English national measures in place to restrict how and by whom these scallop grounds may be harvested. 8. In England, this effect on the small scale fleet has intensified over the past decade as a number of different scallop orders have been introduced elsewhere in the UK, each affecting a different region and introducing slightly different measures. This has had the effect of displacing effort; particularly larger sized scallopers who have been effectively prohibited or restricted in many areas of the UK. When the Scottish Order2 was introduced in 2003 it banned the use of more than 14 dredges per side anywhere in her waters, displacing the larger vessels, which use greater numbers of dredges, elsewhere. This was followed by Northern Irish and Welsh measures and, most recently, by the Isle of Man.

this is a link that cod needs to read and fully understand, it appears to be balanced compared to his links that he now and again claims are the facts and nothing but the facts. There are facts included that indicate rocks have been cleaned but certainly not stolen by the dredges. I agree to management requirements but not cods gung ho closing down an industry. https://www.bing.com/search?q=how+many+scallop+dredges+are+allowed+each+side+for+inshore+scalloping&form=PRHPC1&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HCTE