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  1. text set out below is from someone who I voted for to be sacked. Guess who cod. yes it came from a daily rag this morning. It is more truthful than your  misery you are peddling. As a test to see if you actually read text you don't want to comprehend, I wonder if you will claim that 17.4  million where either duped or they are the far right. One other detail  that is a fact, 4 million plus labour voters also voted to leave, Corbyn and co blatantly ignored their wishes. Weren't the newspapers fault.

     

    A lot of MPs had tried to make the Election about stopping Brexit: Jo Swinson, Phillip Lee, Chuka Umunna, Anna Soubry, Dominic Grieve, Sarah Wollaston, Chris Leslie, Sam Gyimah. All of them ended up losing their seats.

    We meant what we said in 2016. Three years of being told that we hadn’t understood what we voted for didn’t wear us down. It just annoyed us.

    Plenty of people who voted Remain in 2016 were exasperated by the dishonesty of those MPs who, having promised to respect the result, did everything in their power to frustrate it. This week it was the country’s turn to speak.

    Britain is a democracy. That doesn’t just mean that we hold votes from time to time: Russia, China and Venezuela do that.

    It means we expect our votes to count. We expect MPs to act as our servants, not our rulers. We expect our decisions to be honoured.

    Our bloody-mindedness obviously caused a degree of surprise in pro-Brussels circles. Other countries that have voted against European integration have been ignored or made to back down. Not Britain. When we say something, we mean it.

    Sticking to our referendum result is not the only thing that makes us unusual.

    Unlike many European countries, we have never had a Marxist party in office. Nor, in modern times, have we ever allowed an anti-Semitic party anywhere near power. Those two honourable records are still intact.
    Above all, Thursday’s election was a vote for moderation. Although his detractors make him out to be some sort of extremist, Boris Johnson is a main stream politician.

    Yes, he is unusually clever and gifted. Yes, he has a rich and eccentric speaking style. But his politics are pretty moderate — he is a one-nation Tory who, as a backbencher, backed Ken Clarke for the party leadership. He has always stood for liberal and humane conservatism.

    The only way you can label Boris “far Right” is if you also apply that label to 17.4million Leave voters.

    ‘Voters treated as thick’

    Plainly, the electorate doesn’t see Brexit as extreme. There is nothing wrong with wanting to live in an independent country that makes its own laws, just as Canada, Switzerland or Singapore do.

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  2. ohhh my cod.  Whitby is now conservative.

     

    ohhhh Jeremy Corbyn. Lets get Brexit done, Trump offers biggest trade deal, bigger than the trade with the e u. As crybyn and donnel and abbott are left without decent shoes on  her feet.

     

    Where's your 150% support going to now cod, French fishermen. They will need a bit of support when they start burning rubber.

     

    :fishing: :fishing: :fishing:

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  3. big_cod, on 21 Mar 2018 - 07:48, said:

    Bas my support on angling and you back the most destructive form of fishing known to man dont throw stones in glass houses .

     

     

    you fail to want to understand how scallop dredgers work, do you know the difference between retractable tines and a fishing boat that goes out of it's way to collect rocks and stones.

     

    And why do you continually fail to understand or want to understand where scallops live compared to the habitat that crabs and lobsters live in.

     

    All you support is yourself, you certainly don't support anglers that's for sure.

  4. Sportsman, on 21 Mar 2018 - 15:20, said:

    Do you think that Rees-Mogg actually threw any fish? Maybe he got his nanny to do it.

    Farage shouting his mouth off but powerless to actually do anything. Nothing new there then.

    Gove is disappointed. Long may that continue.

    Good day all round really :D

    your a no nothing dic

  5. corydoras, on 20 Mar 2018 - 18:39, said:

    Don't you start your Quisling cr@p on me mate. Enjoy your Red, White and Blue Brexit.

     

     

    why is that quisling, I support what farage has said yesterday yet you sport are so very sad that the political prison and the u k are to part, shame it's not next year. And the 150% support that b c falsely had offered the angling community is equal to the support you show for the uk angling fraternity, why are you on the a n web site, to troll from behind your sofa, about time you retired. Do you leave your flat go to work btw.

     

     

    quote:

    Mr Farage, who says he is a keen angler, also hit out against the EU’s treatment of non-commercial fisherman and said they treat them “like criminals”.

    He continued: “As a keen angler, I can testify that one of the joys of this activity until recently was that we were able to enjoy it with hardly any restrictions.

    “Then the EU decided to intervene. The Brussels bureaucrats maintain that conservation is an imperative and bass stocks are too low. (This, ironically, from an organisation whose quota policy has led to millions of tonnes of prime fish being thrown back dead into the sea over the last few years).

    But he insists that it is not UK anglers who have done the damage to bass stocks.

    He blasted: “The major harm has been done by commercial French trawling fleets. Over the last couple of decades, they have caught huge quantities of bass when they are shoaled up for spawning on the western approaches.

     

  6. corydoras, on 19 Mar 2018 - 19:58, said:

    I agree. She also would not have been so daft as to call that stupid referendum like Caameron did.

    another two years for you to suckle at your e u's political tit.

     

    why do you pop your quisling head up over the parapet when you hear good news for your e u masters, you make it so clear.

  7. here's the latest from the e u regarding the u k and fishing responsibility.

     

    The quisling labour mep's have voted down the u k gaining control of it's own waters back using international law of the sea in favour of the e u management remaining in control of u k waters.

     

    And technical gear again where the e u ignore the opportunity to allow the small fish the chance to breed. that's discard phone. E u management at it's best.

     

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/931998/brexit-news-labour-party-vote-european-parliament-uk-fishing

  8. Phone, on 14 Mar 2018 - 20:09, said:

    Barry,

     

    Since I don't have a clue what you and bc are talking about maybe this will help. Not knowing what I'm talking about has never stopped me in the past.

     

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304380017304350

     

    Phone

     

    not a bad try phone, the first umpteen paragraphs confirmed that discard is bad and what the e u management is up to at present is also bad and the only piece of comfort gleaned from the rest of the paragraphs is that local knowledge is king and to adjust the gear to suit with recommendations from the guys on the coal face who are actually doing it. only had time to scan it quickly sorry. next time abridge the war and peace section for us all. B)

     

    Two examples I have seen previous in the u k is the north sea a net developed by the errrrmmmmm british called the eliminator net for the cod and haddock. b c will agree with me 'cough' that the advance in technical measures has been good news.

     

    And the other one has been a development in beam trawling nets and gear down the south west that get's rid of massively the junk and small fish they pick up and in a mixed fishery sorting out the wheat from the chaff can only be a step forward for the industry and the stock.

  9. corydoras, on 14 Mar 2018 - 00:45, said:

    . Many don't seem to know that the by-catch and discard policy of the EU CFP are based on the Icelandic and Norwegian models.

     

     

    since when? show us what evidence you have or invented.

     

    Why have the e u dictated that the u k anglers must discard the bass. On what model is that based on.

  10. Ken L, on 13 Mar 2018 - 21:18, said:

    Sadly true. We are an island, surrounded by seas that should abound with cod and other species and yet through EU mismanagement and being sold out by politicians, we eat imported catfish from south east Asia....

    yup and e u imported bass and bream that is farmed, sunken eyed, grey looking with scales that haven't formed. That competes with size of a herring. While the dutch and French boats have cleared out the breeding stock in the channel. putting u k anglers and the charter boat industry on a bass ban. Well done to the e u cfp management system for protecting fish stocks. first class . And this is where the likes of b c are in denial. And cory hasn't got a clue, while salivating suckling his e u political tit.

  11. big_cod, on 13 Mar 2018 - 18:31, said:

    And where does it say overfishing by fishermen it doesnt does it over quota millions of tons of it have you googled the prosecutions no by the looks and over Fishing all over the world outside the EU what do say about that anything ?

     

    You obviously haven't read this paragraph within kens link HAVE YOU. The first four lines ought to make you wake up and smell the coffee, but as usual you will ignore the facts.

     

    Clearly it touches on the effects caused by fishermen, however the main point being raised is the management or lack of it. You are now attempting to attribute the blame outside of the e u, yet the discussion is e u managed waters. If you wish to move outside of e u waters, consider the continent of Africa where there is and has been blatant over fishing to the detriment of those who rely on those fish to bloody well eat. Most shortages off that continent are caused by e u boats, where the e u pays the individual countries for permission to fish their waters. As a side issue can you see the e u paying the u k to fish the u k waters once the u k leaves. I ruddy well hope so and I hope that the e u management is going to stand up to e u decimation.

     

    quote:

    4. Discussion

    Since 1983, when the CFP came into force, sustainability has

    been the stated core goal of EU fishery policy. However, management

    under the CFP has driven many stocks further away from this

    objective. A meta-analysis of European fish stocks during the past

    half century showed that the CFP has failed to have any clear positive

    effect on marine fish stocks (Sparholt et al., 2007). The decline

    of European fish stocks is well-documented, with 88% now overexploited

    relative to maximum sustainable yield targets and 46%

    fished outside safe biological limits (Condé et al., 2010). Recent

    studies (Piet et al., 2010; Villasante et al., 2010) and our own research,

    reveal the scale of overshoot that competitive ministerial

    bargaining driven by short-term national interests has produced.

    It is clear from our analysis that political mismanagement must

    bear a considerable share of the responsibility for this decline.

    Decision-making by competitive bargaining has shown a reckless

    disregard for scientific advice which has been produced at a high

    cost to taxpayers. The remainder of the blame could be attributed

    to other management failures such as the shortcomings of quota

    management, heavy subsidies, high levels of discarding, high grading

    and non-compliance with fishery regulations. No matter how

    well these other deficiencies are addressed in the forthcoming reform

    of the CFP, productive and sustainable fisheries will not be

    achieved if Fisheries Ministers’ cavalier disregard for scientific advice

    continues. Over the long-term, our simulation modelling suggests

    that such behaviour virtually guarantees the collapse of fish

    stocks, thus the practice amounts to institutionalised mismanagement

    of fisheries.

  12. big_cod, on 12 Mar 2018 - 23:49, said:

    Well thats your opinion for what its worth £20 odd quid return flight from Spain yes he is a robber all right but I think 130 million passengers Ryanair carried last year might just disagree With you dont winged about them j dont use them youve heard that saying bite your nose off to spite your face . ..

     

     

    an opinion that makes ohhhhleary and his blackmail threat to shut down routes as a reminder that the e u is important, is valueless.

     

    you have confirmed he's a greedy selfish bas tard. exploiting money out of e u tax payers, and you whinge about farage, while also ignoring the earnings and value of the e u tax payer funded kinnok clan.

     

    Your the epitome of hypocrisy

  13. From TAT's web site, they ain't happy with one of their fishing org 'partners' The government warns them to leave the otters alone and TAT ain't happy with natural England as they haven't communicated with them.

     

    So all's good for the otter. :D It's much the same for us sea anglers I suppose for wanting seals and dolphins dead because they eat fish, B)

     

     

    While the Government understand concerns raised about the impact otters may have on fish populations, they are a protected species and there are no plans to introduce methods to control their numbers.

    The Government understands that there are concerns that otters may have adverse impacts on fish populations and wildlife more generally but we do not accept that the otter ‘has become a detriment to the river environment’.

    They also made clear that with the current high level of legal protection afforded to the otter even ‘non lethal control’, as proposed by the petition, would constitute a criminal offence.

    Otters are a protected species and it is an offence to harm, capture, kill, disturb or injure any animal and/or damage, destroy or obstruct their resting or sheltering places. Therefore any methods of control, including non-lethal methods, would constitute an offence.

     

     

    Despite holding a joint meeting with the Barbel Society on the subject of otter predation in October 2017 and repeatedly pressing its current management for a clear position statement on what they were seeking to achieve, the Angling Trust has received no response and was not consulted on either the wording or the wisdom of launching this petition.

     

    However, the Trust has committed to press Natural England to take action to end the unregulated release of otters which have been ‘rehabilitated’ after sustaining injuries from cars or fighting between themselves. These animals are currently released into the environment without any consultation or consideration of their impacts on nearby fisheries.

  14. Ken L, on 10 Mar 2018 - 17:31, said:

    You claim to "hate any racism in any shape or form" but you seem to have a very shaky understanding of what racism or race are.

    You do understand that the UK is not a race right?

    what's the difference between polish and british, both different races. or are you a bit polish for example and that would class you as a mixed race.

     

    or are you claiming race is all about colour

  15. big_cod, on 10 Mar 2018 - 17:16, said:

    No hook line and sinker phone at all I hate any racism in any shape or form ken stands by his words bottom line .

     

     

     

     

    how come the e u is being racist towards the u k. They are attempting to extort money jobs services, yet with regards to Poland they are giving them approximately 200 billion upto the year 2020.

     

    Why do they treat one population different to the other?

  16. big_cod, on 10 Mar 2018 - 16:27, said:

    Hi bas you havent replyed about your friends selling our fishermen out yet you went very silent any thoughts on the subject .

     

    a swerve from you yet again, you know the answer to that, i'll remind you as my question is linked, tusk and co aren't the cleverest in the box, they have no chance at all in keeping u k waters.

     

    About time you started supporting u k anglers as opposed to licking your mates wotsits in the e u.

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