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Hello all. I've had my nappy changed (as Tigger so nicely put it
) and calmed down, apologies for any insults on my part.Anyway.
John is right, somewhere in the Big Bream topic I talk about a home-made 'sinking spod' that comes in backwards, that is balanced so it sinks very slowly through the surface layers, the contents shaken out, and retrieved. Kind of like a big feeder, but one that doesn't deposit a pile of bait on the bottom, but spreads it out so once it's settled you get that nice fine coating.
I did make one and it did work. However, I came to the conclusion that it didn't actually have any benefit over a normal spod, so long as you take any surface drift and/or tow into account when mixing the groundbait/deciding what bait items to use. (Rich was right on that one.) I've tested both and settled on the normal spod. The other benefit the normal spod has is that it stays on the surface and doesn't cut through the water column, which in some circumstances might be more disruptive to fish.
On a water where you want to get your bait to a specific spot and which does not allow the use of boats or baitboats, and where you want to get a decent bed of bait out relatively quickly, I still think a spod is the best option.
I realise that the following only proves that spodding little balls of groundbait doens't not work (if you follow), but at the weekend I spent almost 2 hours doing just that (between 11am and 1pm) and at 8.45pm this hit the spreader block:
17.06 and a new PB.
I wouldn't dismiss it without trying it.
Tip-top fish.
What a fantastic way to highlight your return to the Anglers Net forum.
Ignore nappygate.
Your advice is always appreciated and you have shown, well and truly, that you can catch specimen bream.
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I could have taken a pic of the roach but they never look like anything special at that size, especially just lying next to the reel. Another angler who I know dropped in next to me later and took the pic of me holding the barbel. Maybe I would have got him to take a quick snap if he'd been there when I got the roach. Thing is they always look unimpressive anyhow in a pic, they just don't look their weight. To be honest i've (along with plenty other people) had quite a few just below or above the 2lb mark recently but can't seem to catch more than one or two in a session. You'd expect to catch a number of them after the first one with them being a shoaling fish. I think I may try to target them with a low diameter bottom and some different baits, bread comes to mind as i've not used it yet and I don't think many if any others will have either as everyone seems to target the barbel and chub.
Blooming Heck - I need to relocate to Lancashire and the River Ribble. Sounds like us southerners' gloom about declining stocks of quality roach is not matched up north...
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Anyhow, I was very happy when line peeled off the spool at the slightest hint of flow and it performed pretty much perfectly when Wallis casting. My first fish was a very nice roach of just over 2lb, then came a very decent chub ...then nothing
.That's quite some session. Congratulations.
Any photos of the 2lb roach?
That would be the fish of a lifetime for many of us on this forum.
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Oh dear, here we go again. A few hours ago there was a bit of light hearted banter, and micky taking, (I'm pretty sure Phone didn't feel insulted, and he can take it, as well as he can give it), then someone has to get all sensitive and upset, and it starts to get nasty.
If you are happy, content and confident in what you do Sean, then why get upset about what someone else says? I don't understand why anyone should feel insulted about anything to do with angling, It's angling for crying out loud, not an attack on a relative, or close friend. It isn't even an attack on a style of angling, it's about the inane stocking policies, and over commercialisation/exploitation of our natural environment.
If we can't laugh at ourselves, then then we give up any right to laugh at others.
John.
PS, there is an 'ignore' feature on this site. So if anyone feels that any member might post something upsetting, they can put that member on 'ignore', and save themselves stress.
I'm sorry Gozza. Your arguments about carp may be right, may be wrong or may contain a bit of both.
But what is apparent is that earlier posters on this post have just been downright rude...
I can understand why anglers such as Anderoo are giving the site a break for a bit and why Specimen Sean feels a bit put upon.
Some of the behaviour on this site recently is a long way from humourous and simply insulting...
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Don't worry about that Rudd old chap, if you search the forum you'll find a thread with me openly describing a chub as a good sized roach.
Tiddlertamer was so diplomatic with his correction, something along the lines of "Interesting Rusty, I'm pretty confident it's a chub"
A fine fin perfect specimen if I remember rightly!
Perhaps not your finest bit of fish recognition but many's the day I have spent blanking that would have been turned round by catching such a lovely fish.
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I hope his rod building is better than his spelling...
A case of 'no can do' when it comes to spelling...
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Sorry but the fish didn't break your rod, either you did or the blank had a structural fault.
There is simply no possible way that a fish could break a rod if the tackle is balanced and the drag is set correctly on the reel.
Not completely fair.
I remember Matt Hayes having the top section of his rod breaking on one of his TV shows as a Severn barbel gave him some real stick.
Maybe a structural fault but it does happen that a big fish can astonish you with its power.
Me, I've only broke a rod when losing a tug of war with a tree.
Probably shouldn’t have cast in there though. Not many fish in the trees...
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Probably a question for a salt water forum but I know some of you coarse fishing anglers have caught these species. And this board is where I hang out.
I have caught neither species but if a holiday in a lifetime came up, which do you think is the most rewarding species to target?
I know tarpon grow up to ten times the size of bonefish according to websites recording record catches but bonefish are mean to be pretty special.
They also live in fairly close proximity in some parts of the world.
But if you could only target one species would you choose tarpon or bonefish and why?
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Thing is he critisizes Angling Times in his book, and seems to hold ordinary anglers in contempt. In one chapter he writes about a poor boy and a rich kid, and slags off the poor boy for not catching anything because he didn't have the expensive equipment of the rich kid!! He also had a go at the more sturdier angler. I wouldn't mind but he also seemed to have a go at the Angling Times for it's sexual references, and then proceeds to devote a whole chapter on sexual activities on the river bank using the sort of public schoolboy humour and derogartory terminology suggestive of his own perceptions of what people want to read. Incidentally, I stopped reading his book after the chapter ridiculing the financially challenged youngster, it just put the tin hat on the man's inability to reach the reader, let alone the angler. Let's face it, how much did the average angler pay out for their first piece of fishing equipment? At the age of 10 I had a net to catch sticklebacks, and borrowed my friends cane rod with a hook and a piece of cork with a maggot on the end of it to try catch a fish, all those years ago, and the guy on the bank opposite clapped with great pleasure when my friend eventually brought in a large pike!!
Angling is about having a go with anything you have at your disposal, isn't it?
I’m afraid you’ve entirely missed the point of that story.
It’s titled Morality Tale and it sets up the rich kid who is a braggart with all the gear (and no idea?) against the poor kid with cheap gear.
A tale of good against bad with the rich kid set up as bad and the poor kid set up as good.
Brian Clarke sets the story up ‘like a thousand Hollywood westerns’. Everybody is rooting for the poor kid in the battle where the two fisherman ‘play out their own High Noon’...
Then Clarke cleverly turns the story on its head.
The rich kid puts his cast out and it plops a foot in front of his feet.
The poor kid sends his cast soaring out to the far bank.
Who would now win the duel? Who would catch all the fish?
‘The demolition began. Three barbel, seven good chub, two cracking roach, a big grayling, a big trout and dace beyond number’.
Well actually the rich kid won. But not because he could brag, bully and had the best gear...
But because he had read the swim properly. A lesson I’m sure we all could learn from!
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Thanks for the advice guys, i don't want to start any form of argument i'm just saying in my opinion i think barbless hooks are safer and easier to unhook.
I take your word for it that there is a knack for unhooking barbed hooks but i don't see that no matter how you angle it that you can do it without the barb coming back through the lip and taking some of the lip with it.
I do have several sized and typed disgorgers and know how to use them but found them no help.
I do use micro barbed occasionally and find no real issue with them i just think that fully barbed hooks are dangerous and more stress for the fish.
Thanks again
Well I for one support you. Fish in a way that you feel is right. If barbed hooks are damaging fish, don't use them.
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I wonder if they will they will come back thinking 1+1=6
Time on the bank catching fish, testing what works, what helps and what doesn't, seems a much better bet than talking and reading garbage on here then making misinterpretations.
Go and dream about your long bobbins a bit more Anderoo.
What a thourougly unpleasant way to talk to a fellow Anglers Net user.
May your bites be line bites...
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Someone put me out of my misery. Can someone tell me what a SB/LSD water is?
I'm sure it's been mentioned on this board before but I wasn't paying attention.
I'm pretty sure it's not a reference to the favourite drug of the sixties and acid house culture though...
OK. Going to have a bash at it. LSD = Low stocking density?
SD - nope. Beyond me...
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It seems quite common on SB/LSD bream waters for them not to successfully reproduce/have zero recruitment.
SB/LSD waters I know/have fished are the same.
EDIT Sorry I was typing while Anderoo replied.
Someone put me out of my misery. Can someone tell me what a SB/LSD water is?
I'm sure it's been mentioned on this board before but I wasn't paying attention.
I'm pretty sure it's not a reference to the favourite drug of the sixties and acid house culture though...
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Germany seems to be the place for big pike. Rod and line 55lb 1oz, netted 67.1 lb.
The Czech Republic looks good for pike too.
I found the following online:
"The World Record Czech Pike
Clearly, even bigger pike swim in Europe than in the British Isles. The NFWFHF current world record, a monster 55 pound 15 ounce pike came from then Czechoslovakia's Lipno Reservoir, where at least six other pike over 38 pounds have been taken in the last 20 years.
Jiri Blaha took his 4 1/2-foot long pike on a large roach bait -- a European minnow much like our sucker. According to the report in Splash, the magazine of the NFWFHF, the 55-pound, 15 ounce pike was landed without a net or gaff. All records were carefully checked. The scale examination, weigh in and angler and witness interviews were done by Bedrich Hala, a Czech magazine editor. So this fish is now the NFWFHF all-tackle record. "
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Colossal carp in France.
Monster perch and zander in Holland.
As the enclosed link shows, a massive roach in Germany.
Are there any other European countries which hold the same species of fish as Britain but which also has specimens in excess of anything caught in the UK?
Monster Bulgarian bream per chance putting the much loved Wingham fish in the shade?
So does anyone have tales of titanic Romanian roach?
Plump Portuguese pike?
Bear sized Belgian barbel per chance?
Howzabout capacious Czech chub?
Anyone want to share their stories of fishing on the continent or tales they have been told of epic European fish.
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Here's a link to that 5lb German roach.
Colossal carp in France.
Monster perch and zander in Holland.
As the enclosed link shows, a massive roach in Germany.
Are there any other European countries which hold the same species of fish as Britain but which also has specimens in excess of anything caught in the UK?
Monster Bulgarian bream per chance putting the much loved Wingham fish in the shade?
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The Thames is not short on bleak. In fact it's swarming with them in certain places making fishing with maggot impossible.
What intrigues me is Holland which appears to have both giant perch but also zander.
And what about Germany - I recently saw a 5lb German roach online...
Here's a link to that 5lb German roach.
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How many small fish are there for the big fish to eat?. Consider this during the 1600s (I know it's a long time ago) bleak were netted from the Seine and used to make "essence de l'orient" a substance used to make artificial pearls. It took something like 20 tons of bleak scales to make a pound or so of essence de l'orient.
The Thames is not short on bleak. In fact it's swarming with them in certain places making fishing with maggot impossible.
What intrigues me is Holland which appears to have both giant perch but also zander.
And what about Germany - I recently saw a 5lb German roach online...
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http://www.fishing-worldrecords.com/perche...luviatilis.html
...and lots more of interest on the same site.
Love the comment re the 22 lb 15 oz Australian fish ..... "questionable"
Over to Bobj
Wow - an 8lb 4oz perch.
From a Dutch river.
Does this mean the UK could possibly have perch this size?
Any scientists/anglers on here care to speculate?
Has a combination of evolution and the split between the UK and Europe thousands of years ago meant that the perch species has developed in different ways in different countries?
Or, is it exactly the same species with exactly the same potential for growing so big in not only Holland but the UK too?
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A few months ago I noticed that you can fish in the park near my partners place. To cold to be bothered at the time but I thought come this summer I might give it a go with a float rod. Today I cut across the park at lunch time on the way to a local tackle shop for bait for the weekend and noticed a large section of the park was fenced off and a big lake shape had been drawn on the grass coming off the smaller lake.
A quick chat with one of the workmen, must have been there lunch break also as they seemed to be plenty of men doing a lot of standing about watching one chap work a digger. Well it looks like they have plans to extend the fishing lake, but I wonder if they will return all the big fish if there were any.
From what I have found on the web, it looks like they did not inform the local angling group about when they planned to drain the lake and remove the fish
http://www.victoria-park-lakes.co.uk/VPAAs...B4954D0737.html
But if they do re-open it to fishing and I have ago, after seeing it completly drained I know the layout of the lake.
I wandered down to the lakes in Victoria Park last summer as I was in the vicinity picking up bait from Roman Road tackle for a river session the following day.
Didn't spot any huge fish.
Did spot a monster terrapin though.
Must have been a remnant from the Ninja Mutant turtle craze which had outgrown its tank and been released.
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Thanks folks. The Thames chub are well known and it is a very long river, so I expect it will be too much hard work for the fish chasers. I've been deliberately vague with the details, and perhaps there's even been a little bit of mis-information, for which I apologise, but you know what some people are like. I also haven't told you about all the long, tiring blanks, all the dead-ends, and the frustrations when nothing goes right, and there have been plenty of them!
I have a feeling that fish is probably either the biggest in the stretch and I had a big stroke of luck catching it on my first session, or it's a nomad, and I was lucky that it happened to be there last night. All the other chub along that bit were very small, the smallest only about 8oz! I'm not sure yet, but I think it makes sense. The average size there was very low.
I'll be spending the closed season scoping out new stretches that fit the big fish formula ready for next winter, and I will definitely be moving on as I think I've had the best from the bits I have been fishing. Plus fishing new water is always so exciting
I'm really glad now I resisted the urge to try to finish off the season with a big perch. It was a bit of a dilemma but I'm relieved I stuck to the chubbing, as seeing that enormous fish in the light of the moon last night will live with me forever. It really was the fish of a lifetime.
One last go after work tonight with Rich. It will be nice to see the season out with a mate, and hopefully we'll manage a bite or two each. I'll be at such a loose end next weekend...!
(Steve, I just counted your smilies - very good! And thanks for the idea of fishing for them after dark, it has made such a difference.)
I think the odds on Anderoo being anyway other than the Thames river bank up until midnight tonight are somewhat long...
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Spam has always been a bit soft for my liking although with a good smell and quite a salty taste, I do use it in large chunks on a size 2 in floodwater but for more general fishing I prefer the cheaper brands which tend to have a higher fat content anyway, (more representative of old baits like greaves and tallow).
Brands do vary over the years and some are not always available in all parts of the country, some of my favourite brands are Tulip, Celebrity, Co-op's own brand and Bacon Grill (now only a shadow of it's former self). One to steer clear of is Princes, it's always been too soft.
Edit: What size hooks and pieces of meat were you using? (some anglers seem to have a complete aversion to anything larger than a 16 or 14).
Thanks for all the help with this and apologies for delay in replying - been off seeing family.
I was using a size 8 Super Specialist hook and tearing off small sugar lump sized hook baits.
Perhaps a barbless hook might have made it easier? I've started using barbed hooks for lobworms and used these hooks when switching to meat...
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Simply stunning fish.
Well done - you've put in a lot of hours and used the right tactics in pursuit of your quarry.
Thanks for sharing this triumph on this forum.
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Ah, I see Hounslow has closed/moved? Any more suggestions?
Gerrys of Wimbledon has always been really good to me and provided an excellent service.
Roman Road Tackle are good too.
Perch season
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Ahem Anderoo... Oxford man. And undeniably north of Watford...
I feel duty bound as a Londoner to warn everyone on the internet as to your midlands/northern proclivities...