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  1. Salmon & Trout Association welcomes publication but voices concerns with efficacy of standards proposed

     

    Click here to view the full article

     

    After seven years’ engagement with stakeholders from around the world – including NGOs and the salmon aquaculture (fish farming) industry - the final draft Salmon Aquaculture Dialogue (SAD) has now been published. This, under the leadership of the WWF, forms the basis of a recognised accreditation scheme for farms claiming to follow sustainable, environmentally-friendly practices. The final standard has seven principle themes to measure sustainable salmon aquaculture, including indicators to manage disease and parasites in wild fish;, protect the health and genetic integrity of wild populations; to use resources in an environmentally efficient and responsible manner. and to develop and manage farms in a socially responsible manner.

     

    Did not take too long for the Salmon farming industry to produce monster parasites that walk on two legs.

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    Another parasite given loadsamoney to prey on young people (intended to say "market to" but it came out wrong), lobby for their qualifications to be a necessary requirement before anyone gets near a fish, drive cozy relationships and provide cheap semi trained staff to the big retail chains and marketing industries. Wonderful on every level somewhere no doubt.

     

    My local college runs a course on preparing for a career in the uniformed services. How fantastic is that! :(

     

    The young are being robbed blind by characters their olds will have seen time and time again.

     

     

    Just an opinion like.

     

    Chris

  3. Water is abstracted (taken) either directly from rivers or from the water table that maintains a river's flow.

     

    This has the effect of lowering both the flow and the depth of the river, and in some cases causing the river to dry completely.

     

    The Environment Agency issues licences to water companies and other heavy water users.

     

    t's the age-old problem that if a regulator gains income from allowing a damaging activity to take place, they become reliant on that income.

     

    Whereas low charges do little to deter potential abstractors, high charges might tempt the EA to be more lax in protecting water-courses.

     

    Water is the most basic of "rights" throughout human history. A few greedy sods are working out how to turn it into a commodity to be traded internationally and further impoverish their friends and family as they "head for the high ground".

     

    Only a well paid clown would cede water to some well meaning body.

  4. Thanks for the link Elton.

     

    I'd take it further than the author though:

     

     

    NGOs – unaccountable, undemocratic, unchecked and self-appointed organisations - occupy space created by the political establishment’s increasing distance from the public. However, they do nothing to bring either national or global politics closer to us. In fact, they make it more remote. There is no formal way to challenge the influence, agenda or ideas of NGOs. They claim to best represent the facts, the issues the world faces, and to represent ‘stakeholders’ and the ‘voiceless’, but have begun to displace the public from politics. Hence we see them straddling the Houses of Parliament, demanding that MPs ‘change the politics’. But nobody ever voted for Greenpeace, WWF, Friends of the Earth or Oxfam.

     

    From what I've seen they have been willing to participate in the destruction of scientific methodology for a "quick buck", or too sidestep any questioning of their deeply held religious philosophy.

     

    Elton, I've prob been a bit of a pain in the neck for you over the last few years but you have no idea how scary I found some of the output from the anti fishfarming reps and just how upside down the world was becoming when once respected scientific journals started publishing advertising instead of science.

  5. Jaffa,

     

    Did your hypothetical friends and family give you a beer in exchange? In the US you can give your legal limit of fish away but must not fish again that day. Commercial fishing refers to the harvesting of fish, either in whole or in part, for sale, barter or trade.

     

    Phone

     

    Had a few beers from hypothetical friends and family whatever the catch. Nice seeing the reactions when they taste fresh caught mackerel for the first time though;)

     

    Your way ahead of me on the "US"; never knew its laws were all the same and stupidly thought it was a huge continent with states and differences..

  6. I would say no. you would only bee seen as commercial if you wanted to sell what you caught. There is nothing to stop any body going out to see with say a long line and catching say ten boxes of (sized) cod. If he is not selling his fish he is looked upon as a hobby fishermen who is not doing what he does for commercial gain. Your two creels are not looked upon as commercial method until the person using them uses them for commercial gain. I think.

    Flapper.

    Ps of course you could have a local by-law that stipulates how many creels you can work and how much shell fish you can take home. These sort of by-laws are aimed at hobby fishermen and not commercial fishermen again I think.

     

    Suppose I go out using my pitiful paddle power and catch a box of cod, get bored and its extreme low tide, so head back in and rack around some low tide lobster hot-spots, then split the spoils between friends and family? Am i commercial or hobby?

  7. Phone

    I would say that to be a doing anything “commercial” you would first have to be registered to be commercial. I would say (and I believe that there are commercial fishermen who use angling techniques to catch there fish) to Be able to sell that fish for commercial gain they would have to be registered fishermen.

    Flapper.

     

    If I set out on my kayak and set a couple of portable shellfish creels am I using "commercial" techniques?

  8. Put simply, we are eating too much, says Dr Daniel Pauly, marine biologist and professor at the University of British Colombia.

    "The pressure we are imposing on the world's fisheries is excessive. Either we are eating too much or we are too many," he said.

     

    Dr Pauly is a "darling" of the media atm and has been for the last few years, just like Boris Worm and Prof Callum Roberts. As far as i know not one of them is a actually a fisheries scientist and all have been financed by PEW . Anyone else know anything different?

  9. Well steve if look at the whole picture we have probably a 20th of the stocks we had 30 years ago thats fact not fiction people have got good at catching fish take shore anglers up here i would fish rock marks years ago useing peeler crab and you couldnt carry the fish home i wouldnt see a sole your average angler would be on peir or on the beach but they still caught fish anglers have progresed over the years and got better and they go to the best spots ,fish with the right baits fish the right tides and catch fish but if you look at the peirs and the beaches at times nowadays the fishing is very poor that was not the case 20 years ago there was cod everywhere peir beaches rocks it was alive with them angler have just better at catching fish just like charterboats i just feel sorry for the poor buggers who stand on the peir all night looking at there tip light waiting for bite the bottom line is the stocks are nothing like they used to be sighns at the moment look good for this coming year with a lot of juvenile cod 1-3lb small fish grow fast but fishing off a kayak doesnt tell the whole story

     

    paul.

     

     

     

     

    Loads of change so why stare at at a light-bulb on the tip of a stationary rod when you can roam with a kayak? 

  10. Newspaper article about game fish predation in Scotland:

    http://www.brechinadvertiser.co.uk/lifesty...ators_1_1517259

     

     

     

     

    Have they no idea of what it feels like to stock lochs and reservoirs simply to feed birds who have been driven from their natural habitat by over fishing and bad legislation in the marine environment.

     

     

    Stock up the reservoirs with prey and the predators will party on. Simple. Thats regardless of whatever those evil fishing families from ports like Arbroath do .

     

    Its your problem and not anyone elses. It has nought to do with fisheries legislation,the activities of the commercials, or what is or is not considered  bad legislation in the marine environment.

     

    Have  some of these "experts" no idea how many "feelings" a sea angler might experience if his rights might be removed because someone stocks a loch with easy targets and then gets upset because the predators move in :D

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    Interesting article Leon. Thanks :)

     

    Thing is the conclusions boils down to

     

    The result is, to put it mildly, a legal mess. This is a shame

     

    I suspect more or less everyone who has paid any attention to fisheries knows full well that its a legal mess.

     

    It is a shame that those RSA putting all their effort into pushing Sea Anglers into that system don't seem to spare a moment or two to think about just what they are doing.

     

    No one knows what the future will bring and for certain theres plenty wrong atm. Yet to hear a convincing argument to drag Anglers into the mess though.

     

    Chris

  12. Mackerel and herring were identified, boxed up, and sold years ago, all in the name of "conservation". Shout all you want but they are now someone elses property now and you have no control over what they do with it .

     

    Current RSA thinking seems determined to hand over every fish stock into the same process.

     

    Can't say i see the attraction.

  13. Internationally it has been recognised that whereas there is a great deal of land habitat that has been protected in the form of national parks, SSSIs, nature reserves etc, very little of the aquatic environment has had such attention.

     

    Leon, do you really believe that a "great deal of land habitat" has actually been protected by all this legislation and also really believe the "aquatic environment" needs the same attention?

     

    I don't get it..

  14. Flapper, why rubbish the idea of the six mile inshore waters as being a suitable conservation area for fish regeneration, given it is well known to be were fish spawn and their little ones then grow. Just ban towed gear is all that is required as opposed to setting up specific areas which will be difficult to police.

     

    Scotland had a 3 mile ban on trawling inside 3 miles for I guess half my lifetime.

     

    It was unenforceable at that time so was pointless. What has changed?

     

    Whats funny is that while there is locally now very little "towed gear" activity at all, the noisy politic stuff is all for spending ton's of dosh closing a door on an issue that was over decades ago in my little patch to do what exactly what?

     

    Freeze and turn back time?, combined with the need for "interested parties" to have their say ( all a long way from any actuall freezing/hanging/namecalling etc of course :P)

     

     

    Whatever the truth of all the stories is, I for one do not believe that legislation on Anglers will achieve anything but jobs for the boys and neswpapers in yesterdays recycle bin.

  15. I wouldnt be to sure about labour clive the tories are weak especially now mr murdocks sun is backing labour :D i am actually a right wing labour supporter but not tory i couldnt bring myself clive i think our wealth should shared out not give more to allready privileged few if you cast your mind back clive to the last days of the last comservative goverment they were awash with sleaze this lot wont take to get on the same level its in there blood they just cant help it.

     

    paul.

     

     

     

     

    What could be more unhealthy than what we have atm?.

     

    Men and Women being driven apart by the benefits, taxation and council housing allocation system. The creation of wolf males and single mother enclaves. The destruction of Science, thought and community.

     

     

     

     

    But on the other hand theres always laying into Rupert Murdoch, whoever he might be (whoever he is he will die at some point and your problem will be solved ;):D)

  16. Interesting one for you here wurzel:

     

    http://www.whitbyseaanglers.co.uk/dr-callu...real-fish-fight

     

     

     

     

    The article is comparing Landings into British ports from the Empire days, when our fleets went everywhere , including Iceland Greenland, the Barents Sea, and strange places like "Bill Baileys Bank" ( of course steaming past all the fantastic fishing in the UK because they were stupid greedy fishermen) , with modern landings and then coming to some media friendly but illogical conclusions.

     

     

    Add a few zealot Chefs and the problem is solved.

     

     

     

     

    Alternative view might be to tell the truth. Its not profitable but it might give our kids a better start..

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