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Ian seals through the summer months do have an abundace of food they can feed when ever they want sprats, sandeels,herring they are in there element but come winter it is a different matter they are very clever creatures why not go to boat and wait for dinner once they have had the experience of being fed from a boat its easy picking just wait for your meal to come to you angling boats longliners once they find you a meal is only round the corner.,
Paul if you want to see a reaction on what they think of seals mention it to del boy next time he calls for a pint serve him one first and then say what do you think of seals del and watch the sware words flow,make sure he hasnt got a mouth full of ale when you say seal,otherwise it may start to rain
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Some interesting information just in from DEFRA on what seals are eating these days.
Interesting stuff thanks for that Leon.
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That’s what I thought you might say.
Putting things in perspective regardless of the cost helps.
Your kids have got a lot to be grateful for. Well said Andy.
By the way who was that big ugly bloke round at your house today with his new waders on? Is he what you are now using to frighten the seals away? He certainly frightened me.
Tight lines or should I say slack (scary) lines.
Now then john hows tricks,just got back from sea with big fella and i can tell you that he could not frighten a mouse first fleet seal popped up about four yards away just sat and looked im sure it came to see the big fella in his new waders.when you back at sea mate i have some supplies for you.
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Andy old mate.
We have a wreck that we visit that is about 70 miles to the nearest land. Every time we have visited it in the last four years the same seal has been there. We never catch any fish on it but the seal come up regularly with a fine codling in mouth. How does it find the wreck? Why does it just go to that wreck? We haven’t seen any seals on wrecks in the same area.
I think that john has said he has given up on it and we will be leaving it for the seal from now on.
John mate i was there with you one time he was a big bugger, hows things going must have a go with you before end of season out for a beer later if you fancy paul hegs over for day or two
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I thought shooting of seals could only be done under Licence in the UK,
If not the 1981 wildlife act applies,Please feel free to chalange this as I am certainly no lawyer,To add to this I thought this only applied to Salmon Farmers not Salmon netters,
.243 isnt a big enough Caliber.
The licence allowing shooting speciefies a large caliber Rifle.
I personaly cant see the piont in shooting them and disagree with it I fall well and truely in line with Steve C they belong in the system leave them Alone!
The number may well indicate a healthy head of fish in your locality I know of Anglers on this site that would look out for them as a sign of a productive area to fish in, as they wont be where the fish Aint
As the antis eye swings in our Direction I dont belive It is in our interest
to be seen to be moaning about To much wildlife.......................CORMARANTS Though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have fished within fifty yards of them and had good fishing nice pollock and cod.dont realy have a problem with them it is a bit anoying when you go to pick up your nets and lines and the big black head pops up and half yor catch is chewed up i suppose its a bit like the chicken farmer and the fox you hand them a meal on a plate they will take it .its right what glenk says about them takeing fish off and storeing them up for later we have had one seal working a line takeing every fish off as it comes up and when all the line is in start to feed easy meal. i have a gun but could not shoot one never even taken it to sea its nice to see them i take my kids out to watch them the smiles on there face is worth more than a few fish
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You used to be able to get them we used to buy boxes in fiftys from whitby angling but not had any for a long time there is that many crap imitations there is only one and that is genuine mustad good hooks and a strong trace lineHi all am new to the forum. does any body know if you can buy HOKKAIS that are not made up on rigs ? -
you mention shetlands i have a mate who lives up ther and he was telling me that a lot of the lads he knows shoot them on sightSeals have to compete with other predators for food.Remove the large finned predators, leaving hordes of mainly undersized fish, and the seal numbers are bound to increase.
Is culling them the answer?
Well it wasn't so long ago that thousands and thousands of them died due to a distemper like virus, but because there is plenty of small stuff for them to eat, and few large predators left to compete with them, their numbers bounce back strongly.
So, it's unlikely that a few blokes with rifles are going to make much difference to their numbers.
Restore, the big cod and bass etc, get the ecology back into balance, and you might stand a chance.
But are there as many now?
Apparently not in Shetland!
see: http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.p...ooting_ban.html
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Hi Darlik,
Funney you mention south cheek. My only pic of a seal is from there.
To date Ive never had one take a cod off me but they have taken mackerel in the past. The seal I watched was so clever he never ate any mackerel untill the shoal had passed. The seal spent its time taking mackerel of anglers, storing them on the ledge of the west pier then swimming back out and getting another off an angler. I saw him get 9 or 10. Then when the shoal went it ate them. You would have to see it to believe it.
As a shore angler I dont see them as a big problem, Lads in our club fish south cheeks area and do well despite the seals. Biggest fish I know of last year a 19 pounder in the cloughton festive sweepstake came from that area. If they are taking fish from your nets and lines I fully understand why you see them as a problem. Whay are they increasing ? who knows. Are the overall north sea numbers on the increase or did they just move to our area for a reason ? Perhaps the fishing got so bad in the south they moved to where there are a few fish left.
Good time to go down there now with camera Glen droped father inlaw of there the other day to pick up a pot ender for Ivor and he just walked straight through them they hardly moved.i talked to a couple of lads one night and and they had had problems with them takeing fish off . not bothering me much at moment they dont seem to bother sole nets but they have been takeing bait out of the pots .
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SEX
there is plenty of that going on pups all over the place.
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They can be a bugger at times
I do a lot of popping for bass on the Mull of Galloway and find that on most sessions a seal will turn up. My advice is to cast at them. I am a fair chucker and after two or three close calls and the odd "bounce off" they do get the message and scarper Pal of mine Willie who is a salmon fisherman tends to go for a 303 on these occasions
was he off whitby on saturday heard a large bang close to a salmon boat
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It's nature mate. The sea is their natural environment and fish is their staple diet. They have more right to it than we do. In fact I'm surprised there are still seals around in any numbers given what a complete **** up we've made of their environment.
yes i know that steve they have been here longer than us and have probably more right then us but there must be a reason why there are so many appearing all of a sudden.
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I have been fishing thirty five years out of Robin Hoods Bay and we have always had a handfull of seals,but over the past few years the handfull has turned into at least seventy a freind and i counted fifty laid on the rocks on south cheek at the same time there was heads popped up all around us.nice to see all that wild life and there must be plenty of food for them.But are they becoming a problem i do know that they have been takeing fish off shore anglers lines and that it is a wast of time putting in a gill net because they eat every fish and rip the net to bits,A cousin of mine thought he had the fish of a lifetime one dark night untill he put his headlight on and saw a rather large pair of eyes looking back at him through the surff {lol} he managed to land it 6 O hook in its top lip led it up the beach like a bull it was not happy he managed to cut the hook off as close as he could he ran back while the seal bobbed back to the sea.Thoughts and experiances please.
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Stavey you have a point the big fish arent there in numbers but believe me there is still plenty of cod here, ok i have post a few snaps on here but this summer i can count on one hand what i could call a poor day fishing this summer it has been very good, and poor day here would probably get the lads on the south coast kartwheeling as norman said on an earlyer post some days one cod if you are lucky on the south coast boats now if that was the norm here we would be out of buisness, got dave barham out with me tommorow for once this year my hopes arent exactly high as we have had 3 three days of strong northerlies and massive tides so the water will be coloured but i will give it my best shot and will have to steam probably at least 20 mile to get clear water which i have never needed to do all summer .
Also there seems to be one hell of a lot of small codlings now appearing the shore anglers this winter look like having a bannaza glennk will be all of a quiver now.
i can vouch for that paul tons of small codling hard ashore four inch upword had to put bigger shad on to stop catching them good sign, plenty of good fish too.shame weather spoiled it .
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I do remember last year it was nothing as bad as this if i remember right the strenth of the wind only lasted a day not 3, but we have had 3 days solid with a strong northerly wind and driving rain ,talking to few of the lads who go potting this morning they didnt expect the weather was going to be as bad some of them have only backed there potts off to 14 fasthams approx 90ft but with the size of the swell and the massive tides they are really concerned for there gear and its not finished yet all next week doesnt look exactly fabulas.
pots all over beach at bay paul been away for ten days in Ierland pulled mine out last week glad i did its going to take a good while to settle this lot down
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I got one from lidls last year, it's stainless steel and cost £20 but there was no instruction book with it
We (Liam & I) are into River Cottage and have all the books, Hugh describes how to make one and various methods but I still have to have a go with mine. I am taking it to Scilly (weight permitting) so I want to practice before we go as we eat a lot of mackeral there. Getting the wood is a problem, I got some Hickory chips , have you tried those? and how do you get it going, ie how much dry wood to get it started or is that trail & error?
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Lyn i tend to use oak mostly,i have a few mates that have joinery shops so whenever they are useing oak i get them to bag the shavings up for me,it gives them a chance to give there floors a sweep before they start so i only end up with the oak and not a load of nasty stuff.i have used juniper and that works well nice smell,but hard to get hold of, now in the Askari mag they do a lot of different wood shaveings never tried any but very good with mail order.i just use newspaper to set mine going, light a small fire and gently push shavings over it you just need to have it smoldering with a nice white smoke not a yellow smoke that tends to give a bitter taste.if your shavings are dry it should light easy,good luck
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Yes so did I!
Lads Would you be Kind enough to talk us through the process, as I have toyed with the Idea for some time,
Building a smoke that is
would not build one cheep enough to buy loads in ASKARI mag www.askari.fishing.co.uk hot cold smokers then if you dont like sell it on.
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Yes so did I!
Lads Would you be Kind enough to talk us through the process, as I have toyed with the Idea for some time,
Building a smoke that is
salt brine easy one part salt to eight parts water and half the amount of sugar as salt, for example one cup of salt half cup of sugar and eight cups of water,place fish in brine for thirty five mins take out and rinse fish and let them dry off for a while and into smoker mackerel and white fish i only give them four to six hours but that is my own taste,experiment to suit your own, you can also just dry salt just sprinkle salt on fillet i would do thirty mins again with mackerel and white fish.i do prefer brine the fish stays nice and moist,it tends to be a lot dryer with dry salt.salmon different again the old books will tell you to dry salt for one hour per one lb of the round fish so ten lb salmon ten hours, i found this to be to long to salty so i halfed it and have had great results,i like them to be in smoke for at least twenty four hours,its a good hobby and worth sticking at you may have the odd hick up but when you get it sussed,its great food only prblem is the neighbours smell the smoke and you end up giveing most of it away.
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Darlick - were you using rubby dubby? If not then you should have been. If you get plagued with doggies then use live mackerel for bait, although you have to let the lines out to different distances to prevent tangles.
Good luck! I might try wreck toping this year, apparently some of our wrecks hold some very big ones, so much so that the longliners don't fish near them as they trash the lines.
Yes we were toerag we had the old onion sack down full of smashed velvets and about half a dozen fresh choped and mashed mackerel.out again sunday with slackline we will keep having a go untill we crack it,had a great mad hour today codling feeding well had some real nice fish to ten lb in twenty feet of water proper nodding sesh
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Six years ago i dicided to have a go at smokeing fish,looking in a magazine i saw a smoker for thirty quid yes we will have on of those,few days later it arrives so off we go,where do we go ? ,not a clue,libery good start,picked an old book up witch gave me all the brine and salting so time to experiment,the first go was not good to much salt,not enough smoke,few more goes less salt more smoke ect,now were talking things started to look good taste good so now were off, mackerell salmon cod whiteing haddock eel all on the menue,i tell you now the it was the best thing top nosh from the smell of your mackerel under the grill to the sutle taste of the cullen skink [smoked haddock soup] and the sweet tast of the whiting,try it you wont be dissapointed few misaps on the way stick with it,i have it off to a fine art now and it was worth the disasters,beats the hell out of that died crap and you know what you are eating yum yum
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And those eyes Ill miss those eyes.
think hes been binned from above wonder what his new name will be and what will replace those eyes
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Hi Andrew they had 3 all in the first hour or so then nothing else. Macky informs me that they have been off the Holderness coast for 3 weeks now.
Thats good to know will get out and give it a go as soon as possible if they are down there there is a good chance they are up here.there are a few odd things going on out there at moment one lad had a rays bream in is net last week and i have never seen as many pipe fish fourty years thousands of them every gull on the beach with one wraped round its beak funny to see and every codling stuffed full of them,just about every one we have hooked has been foul hooked i know there is plenty down there you can see them on sounder but think they are concerntrating on pipe fish.
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Tope to 50lb have been taken off the Yorkshire coast in the last few days, and with the new bye law in place protecting the stock lets hope the numbers will increase.
The fish were taken in the Flamborough area by 2 well known anglers Martyn Wilding and Chris Scaife. Martyn tells me the fish were taken on Makerel and it is the earliest they have ever caught tope in the area. However it is also the earliest they have ever fished for them too.
good news,slackline get those hooks sharpend mate we will have another go soon.any idea how many were caught glen.
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Anybody know if they still make a good bait once frozen, and is is better to freeze them in the shell?
Ian i found they tended to go soft and black if frozen out of the shell in bags so i started to freeze them in water in ice trays or small bags of water with half a dozen at a time in they kept there colour and kept firm just remember to take them out night before you go fishing,ps they look good in a gin and tonic too.
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Thanks to everyone for the comments about the fish...I caught it on a 500grm silver pirk with strings and 2 x 8/0 hooks..one hook had a bright pink 6" twintail and the other a 6" lumo twintail...both hooks were well set...mind you it had a mouth the size of a toilet seat....if you go on Chieftain site there.. is a photo of the sole which came out of it's gut..that was a nice fish...off to Southwold in the morning if the weather change???wrecking..back at Whitby following week on a 84hr...so we will see then..thanks to all Graham D.
got your message graham will try to grab a crab or two for you let me know what date you are up and will pop down to see you,very nice fish mate
Seals freind or foe
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Been off today nets been in for two days no bother with seals at all john,like i said earlyer they dont seem to bother much with sole nets but if i was to put gill net in that would be a different story.took seal scarer today looked like wet walrus by the time we got back.hows the chest today john