TomBettle

Don't know if this is still remotely "live", but you may wish to be VERY careful with your money. Please check out the currently running threads on other forums. http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/show...ad.php?t=329843 http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255020

Bit of an update and some more clarity from Phil: Again, I stress I am not party to the full ins and outs and only trying to help sort out what appears to be a right mess with some people getting ripped off. I am most definitely not saying that the below is definite or accusing anyone directly or indirectly of anything. 1) The lads are a syndicate of 4 anglers and one is apparently a police officer. 2) One of the guys wives(!) took control of the boat buying process and the syndicate gave her the money to pay for the boat (all of it!) 3) The money never reached Warrior in any way, shape or form 4) Warrior never received an order for this boat. Someone or some people appear to be being royally ripped off by someone closer to home than they may realise. Warrior work very similarly to us with regards to paperwork from the time of order through to just prior to receiving title documentation. There will be a written chain of every item on an order and each time money is paid there will be a receipt given for the money. This will happen each time, without fail. At the time of final payment a full final invoice will be issued that splits each optional extra, the whole package includng HIN (now called CIN) number, probably engine number and trailer number too. This final invoice will show the total amount and the VAt figure as being paid. If anyone knows one of the aggrieved lads, I suggest that they ask the lady who is handling the payments of the boat for all the paperwork. If she has paid for the boat then there will be, without fail, a full trail (unless Phil is pulling a fast one and I would be hugely surprised if he was). Tom __________________ [admin note: I am adding this rather than posting to avoid bringing this to the top again. It seems that somehow this situation has been settled so I'd like to let the issue die. Closing the topic and no reflection on Tom - he just happened to have the last post. Newt]

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Hi Guys Sorry to bring this up again and I tried to PM Happy Dude, but got an error message. I have just had Phil from Warrior boats on the phone asking for help as he is being accused of holding a group of Scottish lads deposit on a Warrior 175, yet he has no record of the order at all. It appears that the lads placed an order with a woman who was supposedly something to do with Warrior (a dealer maybe?). They gave her a deposit, but she never forwarded anything to Phil. Firstly, Phil and I are competitors and I'll nick a deal off him if I can, but he I think I know him well enough to say he is no crook and believe him when he says he knows nothing about it, but truly wants to help. If Happy Dude's friends or anyone else here knows anything about it, please can they contact me (I only breeze through here from time to time) through my work email on tombettle@southernmotorboats.co.uk and I will do everything I can to try and help. Alledgedly, Warrior are being slagged off heavily on one of the Scottish fishing forums and Phil simply wants to help sort it out. 1) Does anyone know what forum this is on? 2) Is anyone involved prepared to contact me and I wil try and help? 3) doesn anyone know who the woman was that took the deposit? Thanks for your help and sorry for posting this "adhoc" on here. Tom