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Mikench

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  1. There is freedom of movement within the Eu but most come here come to work, pay taxes and contribute to our society. There are exceptions but they are few . The majority of émigrées are from Africa, the Middle East and other non EU Countries . They will continue to come even after Brexit. I would say the majority are economic migrants. I know from a professional capacity of a family of refugees comprising 2 adults and 6 children purporting to be fleeing oppression in the DRC. They arrived in this country with no papers . To cut a long story short the parents were not married and were not the parents of any of the children. None of the children were related and none of them were from the DRC. The parents were deported to Ghana and Mozambique respectively and the 6 children are here in care and will remain so at our expense until they are at least 18. This country was and will continue to be put to considerable expense which has nothing to do with the EU.

     

    We should have refused to allow all of them in. This will continue after Brexit . The Tories have failed miserably to cut immigration. We have an expanse of water that helps us and we should make more use of it. Nobody milks social services as there are no funds available. Benefits are not given out like biscuits and this is another lie from the Brexiteers. The number of Somalis going to Sweden is tiny. There are only 10 million people in the whole of Sweden which is twice the size of the UK. They can have as many as they like beyond the arctic circle.

     

    I despair at the lies being propagated by the ignorant and the willingness of others to believe them. The refugee situation would exist within or without the EU.

  2. I was a working man and voted remain. I would still do . We are still a sovereign nation. We can control our borders and immigration issues are not EU orientated and will continue even if we leave . I voted to go fishing today . However before I set off I decided where I was going, how I would get there, what I needed to take with me, what I might need in poor weather and how I was going to do it . Shame the leavers didn't think it through.

  3. We didnt sign up for the EU as it is now we signed into the version we entered in 1974 which was far different

     

    I didn't sign up to the current media, news, trivial reality and twitface hysteria either but sadly we are where we are. The world is a poorer place and our bit of it will either improve if you are right or go down the pan if I am. On verra !

  4. John Berkow 's days are numbered IMO.

     

    The days of Bullying are thankfully resigned to the annals of years gone by!!!

    He was a very good speaker imo. A labour one will be next.

  5. The EU or EEC is the sum of its members . If it wasn't it wouldn't exist. Members trade with each other. How far are you going back to " our European friends " trying to rule us? I assume 1939 and Germany and you would be right in that regard. I am still amazed at the degree of forgiveness granted by Poland, France, Benelux etc to what was a dispicable invasion only 80 years ago. I recently learned that Germany received petrol from Russia during the Battle of Britain until Hitler invaded Russia when they switched allegiance to the Allies.

     

    I digress. The EU is not perfect but being in it is better than being out imo. Arguably the EU was designed to bring peace and stability in Europe and between its members it has succeeded . The Balkan countries were not in it and should never have been after what went on less than 30 years ago.

  6. They could have had a referendum anytime they liked but i bet the outcome would be like ours with their masters dictating what the rules were trying to get out of their control!

    If we have no sovereignty why cannot we make any trade deals without EU consent ,why cannot we ditch the highly controlling human rights act ,we dont sell or buy ANYTHING to the EU we trade with EU members the EU as a body are just money grabbing middlemen foolishly given power by foolish governments

    No they couldn't. Don't you remember the military invasion by Russian tanks into Hungary and Czechoslovakia or didn't they happen just like the saving of 350 million per day when we leave?

     

    I think you meant to say " if we have sovereignty " which we do. We signed up to the Human Rights Act and will abide by its basic tenets whether we remain or leave. The EU is its members.

  7. If we had no power and no sovereignty we would not have been able to have a referendum in the first place. Do you think during the Warsaw Pact era that Poland or Hungary could have held a referendum on their continued membership. That is loss of sovereignty.

     

    The regulations and laws which emanate from the EU are not made by unelected bureaucrats as Farage alleges, but are considered by law makers in Brussels at the behest of the member states ( all 28) who are then consulted on the proposals made and then and only then, if there is unanimity( or a majority dependant on the subject matter) are the new regulations made.

     

    In simple terms no new regulations have been passed against the wishes of the UK and those that have have been incorporated already into our written legislation and will likely remain permanently.

  8. Should have put indelible blue foam in them then they wouldnt be water cannons !chumps all of them

    Not sure scotland has a chance of getting in the EU it has a smaller population than london and produces less money ,why would the EU want another third world country ?

    That didn't stop them accepting Eire, Cyprus, Malta, Slovenia, and Portugal .

  9. I've decided to stay local today where we fished Ian as I may have to come home early if youngest dotter puts in an appearance.

     

    Chernobyl is the nickname for a beautiful new fishery where the water is a greenish blue colour. Ian a guy told me that a water treatment had been added to kill algae but that may not be correct. I'll ask the bailiff when I see him.

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