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http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.p...al_fishing.html

 

Personally i blame 30 years of cr@p management if thats the case. Sack 'em all, including the worst of the lot, the e u. B)

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Thanks for the link Leon, like i said, i blame the management. Think they are the best to continue with their errr style of management? Are they fit for purpose, will they get it right this time with a reformed cfp, they already have had 30 years of trying?

 

quote Maria:

Let's start with some facts: there are fewer and fewer fish in the sea. Catches have constantly gone down since the nineties. We have fished too much. We have thrown away fish we don't want to land or for which we don't have quotas. And we have used taxpayer's money to build up our fleet. The result is that today seventy-five percent of our stocks are overfished.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Thanks for the link Leon, like i said, i blame the management. Think they are the best to continue with their errr style of management? Are they fit for purpose, will they get it right this time with a reformed cfp, they already have had 30 years of trying?

 

quote Maria:

Let's start with some facts: there are fewer and fewer fish in the sea. Catches have constantly gone down since the nineties. We have fished too much. We have thrown away fish we don't want to land or for which we don't have quotas. And we have used taxpayer's money to build up our fleet. The result is that today seventy-five percent of our stocks are overfished.

 

Hello Barry

 

What are you blaming the management for?

Are there fewer fish in the sea? have catches constantly gone down since the nineties?

Have they used taxpayer's money to build up the fleet?

I not so sure she's being very truthful here, in fact I think she is as mad as a sack full of cats. But then so was Hitler and look how many followed him.

I fish to live and live to fish.

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Good evening Wurzel, hope you are disgustingly super rich by now, caught any more tuna. :D

 

When ever i read about different ports and landings they nearly always appear to be on the up. I know the e u has spent a lot of taxpayers money making the u k's fleet redundant, don't know about the dutch, spanish or french fleets though.

 

She appears to be the same as all the rest of the socialist money spenders, yet without a clue of what she and the ilk are actually trying to acheive. This week big speech in london with scientists backing up the need for data led management. Yet just over a week ago giving up on the precautionary approach. Nothing changes, spending tax payers money managing the management. The revised cfp will be more of the same. :yawn: So yup, i agree with you, mad.

 

http://www.fishnewseu.com/latest-news/scot...ommonsense.html

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Good evening Wurzel, hope you are disgustingly super rich by now, caught any more tuna. :D

 

When ever i read about different ports and landings they nearly always appear to be on the up. I know the e u has spent a lot of taxpayers money making the u k's fleet redundant, don't know about the dutch, spanish or french fleets though.

 

She appears to be the same as all the rest of the socialist money spenders, yet without a clue of what she and the ilk are actually trying to acheive. This week big speech in london with scientists backing up the need for data led management. Yet just over a week ago giving up on the precautionary approach. Nothing changes, spending tax payers money managing the management. The revised cfp will be more of the same. :yawn: So yup, i agree with you, mad.

 

http://www.fishnewseu.com/latest-news/scot...ommonsense.html

 

It looks like lots of political speak as usual, They will never get rid of quotas as it is the only way they can share out fish. There is no way that they can make any radical reforms of the cfp as quota management has always been based on the collection and analysis of time series data, they cann0t and will not change this as it is all that fisheries scientists know. All you will ever get is more crisis management with more stakeholders and more political speak to keep Hugh Fernly happy, until he finally dispairs and gives up on his mission bless him!

 

Anyway just back from a nice holiday in Peru and the Galapagos Islands , so thought I had better see what is happening in Fisheries Politics. More of the same I guess.

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It looks like lots of political speak as usual, They will never get rid of quotas as it is the only way they can share out fish. There is no way that they can make any radical reforms of the cfp as quota management has always been based on the collection and analysis of time series data, they cann0t and will not change this as it is all that fisheries scientists know. All you will ever get is more crisis management with more stakeholders and more political speak to keep Hugh Fernly happy, until he finally dispairs and gives up on his mission bless him!

 

Anyway just back from a nice holiday in Peru and the Galapagos Islands , so thought I had better see what is happening in Fisheries Politics. More of the same I guess.

 

 

You lucky fella, as you are a sensible chap, how about commenting on this one, yes i know it's old, however i would like somone else's perspective with regards to the uk spending loads of dosh, over 8 mil on the last count and it now looks like they are dithering, compared with this one from Norway that will target the problem as opposed to blanket bans and acheive more, no doubt at less expence of the tax payers money than the uk and the eu can ever dream of. :D

 

http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.p...ian_Waters.html

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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You lucky fella, as you are a sensible chap, how about commenting on this one, yes i know it's old, however i would like somone else's perspective with regards to the uk spending loads of dosh, over 8 mil on the last count and it now looks like they are dithering, compared with this one from Norway that will target the problem as opposed to blanket bans and acheive more, no doubt at less expence of the tax payers money than the uk and the eu can ever dream of. :D

 

http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.p...ian_Waters.html

 

If you read it carefully Barry you will see that it is a case of being seen to do something but actually doing nothing or at most very little, probably designed to appease the green lobby.

I fish to live and live to fish.

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If you read it carefully Barry you will see that it is a case of being seen to do something but actually doing nothing or at most very little, probably designed to appease the green lobby.

 

I guess Wurzel has hit the nail on the head really, words to impress the greenies. I can imagine all these Norwegian stern dragger skippers weighing their corals reporting accurately and steaming away from big hauls of cod. The corals go back over the rail and no one on board has seen a bit of coral on these grounds, that is the reality of life. But all is well the Norgies are the first to impliment the FAO reccomendations, good PR.

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