Legering target boards?

[Dick Dastardly]

To be quite frank I just don't understand this business of shy bites whilst quiver tipping for bream.......just use a swingtip instead and then tell me those very same bites are shy!

 

I won a lot of matches in Germany on bream venues by using the swing tip rather than the quiver.I would get dead positive,easy to hit bites whilst all the others when chatting after the weigh in would be moaning about delicate,shy,unhittable bites! Not going to even bother theorising why it was just a simple fact.

[tincatinca]

Are they made from waggler inserts?

 

The ones in the picture are waggler inserts but in use they would be a good bit shorter. What is also good is bobs made from cocktail sticks and painted up with a bit of dayglo paint. Small polyballs can also be used can also be used on the end of short sticks but I personally think that you can spot movement more easily if the bobs are straight.

[tincatinca]

To be quite frank I just don't understand this business of shy bites whilst quiver tipping for bream.......just use a swingtip instead and then tell me those very same bites are shy!

 

I won a lot of matches in Germany on bream venues by using the swing tip rather than the quiver.I would get dead positive,easy to hit bites whilst all the others when chatting after the weigh in would be moaning about delicate,shy,unhittable bites! Not going to even bother theorising why it was just a simple fact.

 

I must admit that I too have never experienced Bream that have hardly moved the tip but the method using bobs lets you see any movement especially when fishing two rods.

[Dick Dastardly]

I don't bother with sight "blobs" during the day but do use the same principle with double isotopes on the rod tip at night when barbel fishing.I use them a bit further apart than shown in the photo (around 16-18") but it really depends on the action of the tip.

[lutra]

To be quite frank I just don't understand this business of shy bites whilst quiver tipping for bream.......just use a swingtip instead and then tell me those very same bites are shy!

 

I won a lot of matches in Germany on bream venues by using the swing tip rather than the quiver.I would get dead positive,easy to hit bites whilst all the others when chatting after the weigh in would be moaning about delicate,shy,unhittable bites! Not going to even bother theorising why it was just a simple fact.

I'm with you Budgie " just use a swingtip"

 

From what Ive seen of most modern tip rods they don't come with soft enough tips to even make a bad job of bream fishing.

[Dick Dastardly]

From what Ive seen of most modern tip rods they don't come with soft enough tips to even make a bad job of bream fishing.

 

 

I wasn't going to get in to the why fors Brian but I'm fairly sure you've hit the reason on the head. A lot of our matches were held on a fast flowing river and the standard bream tactic was to upstream ledger with realy (well for the time,the 80's) poky feeder rods like the Normark Fast Feeder and the Daiwa Porky Pig.The strong spliced in carbon quivers on these rods were great for the up stream method but when we fished on the "cut offs" and harbours joined to the river they were just to stiff.

 

On the river proper I would win the occasional match (when feeder fishing for bream was the order of the day) and be happy to frame as the other guys included some far better match anglers than myself.But on the still waters off the main river I was unbeatable!

 

Didn't suss it out myself though! Just came about by watching a mate use a tip on pleasure sessions whilst I float fished and noticing how closer he kept to me with numbers caught than when he tried float fishing.I won a good dozen matches on the swing tip before people stopped regarding it as a fluke! Not so much me winning but because of the method used.Still many didn't swap (mainly the guys who normally beat me on the quiver on the main river!) no matter how many results I got!

 

A much under used method these days it seems.

[lutra]

A much under used method these days it seems.

Some anglers will never know what they've missed out on.

 

A calm early morning as the sun wakes up and the mist hangs over the lake.

With the swingtip set just touching the water, if a fish even farts in my swim i will know about it.

Edited December 9, 2010 by lutra

[James P]

Some anglers will never know what they've missed out on.

 

A calm early morning as the sun wakes up and the mist hangs over the lake.

With the swingtip set just touching the water, if a fish even farts in my swim i will know about it.

 

Well if that isn't one of the most beautiful dawn shots i've ever seen. Can just see that swingtip lifting now!

 

Stunning.

[chavender]

kinmad ,sometimes the odd one shows up on e-bay

 

squiare board

 

I`ll look at the weekend and see if i have any lurking around in me shed in the attik someware ,as i know i had a couple about 15 years ago ,so they should be up there someware being a practicle item i knew i`d find a use for one day ,(like everything else ,up there ,never throw owt away me!) ,if i find one your welcome too it .

[tincatinca]

On the subject of tips, I do not know what manufacturers are offering these days but several years ago I purchased several rods from the Shimano Technium range ranging including heavy, medium and specialist feeder rods. These came with a range of tips ranging from 4oz carbons to 1/2oz glass with many permutations between. I also got some spare tips at the time mainly the 1/2, 3/4, and 1 oz variants which allows me to ring the changes as required and what suits me. The most sensitive rod I ever used was a glass Ernie Stamford quiver which I never got rid of but cannot currently find. Used it mainly for river Roaching till it was replaced by the Shimanos. On the subject of swing tips, we often used to make our own in longer versions than the norm and couple them up to avon type rods. Still use the swing tips today for Tenching on some venues. In reality there are several ways to crack the egg and do it effectively. Much depends on individual preferences. I think that the key thing is having a working knowledge of the different methods that are available as what suits one does not neccessarily suit another.