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Is this an Ide?

Norfolkdan

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Count the scales ! Ide have tiny scales compared to roach

 

Roach have 40 or fewer scales along the lateral line

 

Ide have 55 or more. So there is no possible "overlap"

 

A blow-up of the original pic should settle the matter - I can't count the scales on your posted pic (too small)

 

 

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As far as I can tell there are about 58 scales, so it seems to be an ide. I might easily have assumed it was a roach/dace hybrid though.

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I hate to drag this on a bit, but how can anybody seriously think that the fish is a roach.

When was the last time you caught a roach with a tail that colour.

The Ide were put in the Calder something like 30 years ago. I have weighed one in Wakefield that went three pounds. We catch them pretty regular here. They tend to take up station, higher in the water than roach. Fishing the waggler, for instance, it's a safe bet, that if you get a savage take on the drop, it will be an Ide. And they put up quite a scrap.

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Peter Sharpe:

As far as I can tell there are about 58 scales, so it seems to be an ide. I might easily have assumed it was a roach/dace hybrid though.

Good! I'm glad someone has done that. None of the roach hybrids (even with ide) would have that many scales.

 

A new species for your list then Dan Now you know why I waited for someone else to come forward ('cos I can count up to 58 also.... )

 

...and yes John, ide have reddish tails, unlike roach - but it is difficult to make out much colour in the posted pic. The scales would always give it away.

 

 

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