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Listen to the Angling Trust's David Mitchell and CEFAS's Mike Armstrong talking about the Sea Angling 2012 Project on BBC Radio Newcastle.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p00jqdjc

 

(Last five minutes of the programme - move the slider along to 24:50 to skip to relevant section)

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The trust is saying the same as the rsa with regards to anglers getting involved or not, the trust won't commit themselves to the project, that may well be because of the contentious nature of it, they go on to say past history of what has gone on before and the anglers concerns to pass information over or not. In addition the trusts opinion is the same as others that both cefas and defra need to up their game to reel the angler in and start talking to them as opposed to issuing dictats just like the eu. It's down to them. So how many anglers are both cefas and defra actually engaging in?

 

 

 

Listening to Mike Armstrong, sence of urgency regarding the fish stocks within the eu, really. They need to do more for the cfp then in my veiw. He goes on to say about the rsa benifits with providing this data for the rsa to be managed? There are no proposels to issue a licence at present? And the biggest punch line for me was when he stated they really only asking a few questions, where are these questions and why are they being kept hidden, why?

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Could be that the people who are going to ask the questions haven’t got them yet? Why be bothered what the questions are going to be Barry if you’re not going to take part? If anglers don’t take part in numbers to make a survey worth while then there is an easy way of finding out how many anglers there are and what they catch and where they fish (ask any commercial fishermen) And when every body screams that compulsory legislation has been forced on the RSA you will know why.

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Could be that the people who are going to ask the questions haven’t got them yet? Why be bothered what the questions are going to be Barry if you’re not going to take part? If anglers don’t take part in numbers to make a survey worth while then there is an easy way of finding out how many anglers there are and what they catch and where they fish (ask any commercial fishermen) And when every body screams that compulsory legislation has been forced on the RSA you will know why.

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You are assuming flapper. What i am saying is that if there are so few questions to ask, why havn't they been released yet, why wait, they do have the questions and they have been put to chief fishery officers for their responce, yet kept away from the ifca members. Why is it sooooooooooooo complicated if there are so few questions to ask and why so much wheeler dealing. Why again wasn't these few questions released at the time of the count proposel to alay any fears that the rsa might have. So can you see why it is blatently obvious why the hair is standing up on rsa necks when you are made aware of the way business is conducted. Do you trust defra and co?

 

The trust are not going to be part of the count, however they are attending the meetings, two or three ifcas are saying no, one ifca after consulting their stakeholders is definatly saying no on behalf of them. Thats how business should be conducted.

 

I have already given my reasons for saying no to this count and to date haven't seen any assurances from both defra and cefas to change my mind. Tell me how can compulsory legislation be issued without facts. It's defra and co that need to up their game when dealing with the rsa not the otherway around.

 

Your turn, tell me what the positives re the eu count will be and do you consider the eu count viable? No smudging. B)

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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