Specialist Angling Unity

[Guest Alan Pearce]

Very well said Steady On and Adrian.

 

Alan.

[Guest DCB]

Well said Steady On.

The voice of reason - thank god!

The freedom of choice.

Let's make angling the tolerant sport.

[Guest trent.barbeler]

Steady On,s words are a perfect example of what the reality of angling is all about.

It is hard to imagine any other way.

 

Perhaps now,after such a common sense posting from Steady On, Steve Pope might like to respond with his vision for our angling future?

[Guest Paul Williams]

Hi steady!

Exellent first posting....just what i would hoped for from a real angler...a good old fashioned piker!!!

[Guest Keith Finn]

That is the first posting I have read on this whole thread that has any real meaning to me!.

Well done that man.

All this Special group this, special group that, what are you realy doing for the general angler and fishing?.

Nothing as far as I can see.

All you seem to do is argue amongst yourselves and never get anything done. I got bored reading this thread half way through and so jumped to the last page to see if anything had become of it.

What do I read, nothing of any importance again.

I have never joined any of your so called specialist groups because there seems to be only a sharing of knowledge and tactics about the fish but nothing about , how can I put it, the situation in angling itself, the state of waters , pollution, getting organised against anti's etc etc.

If you are doing something, why am I not reading about it in the press or the weekly angling mags or even the monthlies?.

It seems to me that you are all about yourselves and your own special fish.

I will never give my money to join anything like Nasa and the likes until I hear something positive is being done for the general welfare of fishing!.

Get your act together.

Keith

[Guest Alan Pearce]

Keith, hear what you say and agree. It is very difficault to reach out and inform all anglers as there simply is not a mechanism in place to do so. The popular angling press is only read/purchased by around 10% of anglers and even then, they do not always wish to print all the information that is given to them. Hopefully with the new NAA structure this will change somewhat.

 

Likewise the birth of the SAA will provide a better platform and reporting structure for the specialist angler.

 

Anglers Net carries all the uptodate Press releases, with thanks to Elton.

 

Alan.

 

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[Guest phil hackett]

"All this Special group this, special group that, what are you realy doing for the general angler and fishing?.

Nothing as far as I can see."

 

Yet another poster with a true grasp on reality.... Not!

I suggest you look at page three 23/3/01 "Where have the fish gone and what can we do?" You might also want to look on the conservation pages and SACG/NASA site and reflect on your last posting afterwards.

 

As to what the two organisation are doing for the general angler? Well, here in Sunny Manchester two general course waters are now secure, thanks to them because they through the auspice of myself, fought to save them for angling.

 

A final thought! What's your SP on doing things for the general angler and the wider angling fraternity?

[Guest Newt]

Originally posted by phil hackett:

QUOTE]Yet another poster with a true grasp on reality.... Not!

I suggest you look at page three 23/3/01 "Where have the fish gone and what can we do?" You might also want to look on the conservation pages and SACG/NASA site and reflect on your last posting afterwards.

 

As to what the two organisation are doing for the general angler? Well, here in Sunny Manchester two general course waters are now secure, thanks to them because they through the auspice of myself, fought to save them for angling.

 

A final thought! What's your SP on doing things for the general angler and the wider angling fraternity?

 

Phil - you may have hit on the heart of the problem here. Steady-on was commenting that the whole situation is so confusing that he cannot sort most of it out. Nor can I and I have really tried - reading thru masses of data (as opposed to information) and slinging matches.

 

You point out some good things that you know of but they obviously are not general knowledge amongst anglers. Probably they should be.

 

I imagine that while many casual anglers will not join any organization if it requires money and they can't see any immediate benefit to themselves. Others might be willing to part with the money and maybe even participate if they could only figure out who to join up with. Real specialist anglers already have easily identified interest groups but what about the rest of the UK anglers?

 

If some of the regulars on this bbs cannot sort the situation out, the various groups have a major information/image problem that really needs to be dealt with.

 

I personally would love to see the occasional informative thread that stayed on topic.

[Guest poledark]

Steady on,Keith, Newt and all, out of all this the one thing that is certain to put me off is the word "Specialist". It smacks of arrogance and elitism.

 

I,ve been fishing(I do not go Angling) for over 50years and in all that time there have been self appointed Specialist groups who have sought to impose there will on the rest of us. One after the other they start,a few blokes get together and form a Specialist study group,how pompous can you get,and then set out to set themselves up as the spokemen for anyone who fishes for "their" particular species.The overall perception of these groups is that they think they are a cut above the "average casual angler"

 

Me, I dont want them,but I would support a Fishing club of Great Britain which spoke for all Fisherman.

[Guest 'eelfisher']

Dear all

From what I read of late.....

All we need to do is change the name, cover all the anglers in Gt.Britain, charge one subscription fee that all will contribute to, elect a committee to run the organisation (possibly from Elton's site) made up from anyone other than those mentioned in connection with NASA, SACG, NFA ect ect....and we're sorted.

Thank God for the power of the net....

If someone can come up with the structure then I shall join it.

I am quite happy to drop the word 'specialist' from my perspective of angling.

I fish for 'specimen' fish mostly but would suggest that soon any fish will be a better target for us all.

I am new to this game of 'let's sort the fishing out' and am quite happy to take advice from all these new posters who obviously have the right path marked out but have probably been too shy to come forward in the past, due to the 'ego's' being in the forefront of the other less able bodies covering angling politics. Thank the Lord that after four pages of this debate we have finally un-earthed the new energy to protect our sport.

To those of you who have been trying to do the same over the past few years.....thank you.

Take the hint, I certainly have, and move over and join the new way forward with the new personnel who are not weighed down with 'past' downsides to them.

I shall await some positive emergence of a proposed new body to look after angling into and beyond 2001.

Yours With Respect.....

Steve. (Just back from a long blank eel session last night.)

PS. And I still get on very well, and like, Steve Pope as much now as ever before.

 

[This message has been edited by 'eelfisher' (edited 31 March 2001).]