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I would respectfully suggest you go and have a good look.

There are quite a few boats operating in the vicinity of Ramsgate/Deal/Dover and Folkestone who pull or set nets almost fulltime, but are not licensed/registered.

I doubt they pay income tax, NI, etc.

At least three of them have untaxed vehicles.

 

How do you know if they are licenced. Have you seen them at it, do you know for sure that they are selling into the commercial market. I'm at folkestone each month and have done so for over twenty years and have not seen anything that i would say is illegal. If you have, have you reported it to the sfc or mfa? If not can you get evidence? I have heard of cod being landed outside of quota, but that is all, it can only be classed as hearsay unless there is proof. What do you recon of the sfc then, i was in another sfc area at the weekend and the patrol boat checked at least twenty angling boats, how would the 'cheats' get away with a boarding then? If as you say it is going on, again would you report it?

 

Regarding untaxed vehicles, anyone who drives one today must be mad, the police will catch them, it is too easy for the coppers today with anpr.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Hello all,

 

Just had my Dad bring Graham Picket (EX CEFAS) round for a quick cup of tea. We were chatting about un-licensed angling vessels selling their catches. He agreed that it has always been a problem to varying degrees, and there have been people prosecuted in the past. The Inland Revenue apparently are very interested in this undeclared income.

Please Please check this out!

 

http://www.justgiving.com/tacyedewick?ref=

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How do you know if they are licenced. Have you seen them at it, do you know for sure that they are selling into the commercial market. I'm at folkestone each month and have done so for over twenty years and have not seen anything that i would say is illegal. If you have, have you reported it to the sfc or mfa? If not can you get evidence? I have heard of cod being landed outside of quota, but that is all, it can only be classed as hearsay unless there is proof. What do you recon of the sfc then, i was in another sfc area at the weekend and the patrol boat checked at least twenty angling boats, how would the 'cheats' get away with a boarding then? If as you say it is going on, again would you report it?

 

Regarding untaxed vehicles, anyone who drives one today must be mad, the police will catch them, it is too easy for the coppers today with anpr.

 

 

 

Hi Barry.

 

Registered commercial fishing boats will have numbers on them.

Please Please check this out!

 

http://www.justgiving.com/tacyedewick?ref=

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How do you know if they are licenced. Have you seen them at it, do you know for sure that they are selling into the commercial market. I'm at folkestone each month and have done so for over twenty years and have not seen anything that i would say is illegal. If you have, have you reported it to the sfc or mfa? If not can you get evidence? I have heard of cod being landed outside of quota, but that is all, it can only be classed as hearsay unless there is proof. What do you recon of the sfc then, i was in another sfc area at the weekend and the patrol boat checked at least twenty angling boats, how would the 'cheats' get away with a boarding then? If as you say it is going on, again would you report it?

 

Regarding untaxed vehicles, anyone who drives one today must be mad, the police will catch them, it is too easy for the coppers today with anpr.

 

So many questions. :rolleyes:

 

Just believe that I am a grown up person who doesn't post things on Internet Forums just for effect.

If I wasn't sure , I wouldn't say.

 

I did on one occasion mention it to two policeman sat in their car having a break in a coastal car park, when a few boxes of school bass were being carried ashore, but they didn't think it was anything to do with them and suggested I contact the Environment Agency.

 

I don't think you will find that "anpr" is as widespread as you believe.

"I gotta go where its warm, I gotta fly to saint somewhere "

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The main problem seems to be catching people selling their catches.

 

To prove fish are being illegally sold would take up a lot of time and resources. It would probably involve many man-hours to carry out stakeouts and watch peoples movement over a long period of time. The taxpayer would foot the bill so I expect the powers that be are a tad reluctant to dig deep as many members of the public would see such efforts as a waste of valuable time and money.

 

But surely only a few busts with the correct punishment would act as a good deterrent.

 

It doesn’t really matter to me how effort is decreased as long as it is decreased. There are more way of cutting effort than just moaning about commercial fishermen.

 

 

 

I feel RSA bodies have campaigned for the unachievable so far. Maybe if they had tried to just get the fishery policed properly RSA might have got somewhere.

 

There would certainly be less inshore effort with the correct policing, and aint that what most of us want?

Please Please check this out!

 

http://www.justgiving.com/tacyedewick?ref=

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I have spoken to people who know much more than yourself regarding my views and they agree. If the fishery was policed propperly it would decrease effort!

 

No one would be happier than I!

 

I do think you're wasted on here with such statements ....

you need to contact http://www.mfa.gov.uk/

and how about a nice letter to Fishing News - http://www.intrafish.no/fn/

and see what your commercial mates think?

 

:rolleyes:

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No one would be happier than I!

 

I do think you're wasted on here with such statements ....

you need to contact http://www.mfa.gov.uk/

and how about a nice letter to Fishing News - http://www.intrafish.no/fn/

and see what your commercial mates think?

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

If you had read my posts you would sea that I have reported my fears! and Im always talking to commercial fishermen! Why the hell shgouldnt I they aint lesser lifeforms.

Please Please check this out!

 

http://www.justgiving.com/tacyedewick?ref=

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Was good to hear about those gready commercials getting knicked, thats whats needed a good deterrant.

 

 

Reported in Today's Telegraph

 

see: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jh...8/03/do0307.xml

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Its good to see rule breakers getting the correct punishment. It wouldnt take to many knickings to make a decent deterant.

 

If this was carried on right through the fishery maybe so call substainability could be achieved.

Please Please check this out!

 

http://www.justgiving.com/tacyedewick?ref=

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