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Reckon you have misunderstood Stevie, the only thing I've seen him posting is that monfilament gillnets are ilegal in Scotland, which is true - it would appear you have picked up the 'gillnets' part and missed the 'monofilament', which is the part that makes them ilegal. If you want to do some research on it a good place to start your google search is 'MFV Moyalon' - a boat built utilising White Fish Authority grants, including grants for the fishing gear (mon nets), law banning mono came into force in Scotland as the build of Moyalon was coming to completion. She was launched, loaded up with the nets and, as soon as she came into Scottish waters, arrested and escorted into port for carriage of ilegal nets. Was fought through the courts for years and eventually led to the bankcruptcy of the fisherman who had her built. That's what you call fisheries mismanagement - give a guy grants for nets, make them ilegal before they've ever been in the water, then arrest him for carrying the nets you helped provide him!

Nets can be made from anything you want them made from. Tangle nets are best to be lightly made which makes the best oiptions for them Mono (ilegal in Scotland), Multi-Mono (not ilegal in Scotland) or light cotton, which is legal everywhere too.

No they're not, that's garbage. Monofilament nets of any kind are banned, gill nets are perfectly legal.

Have you ever looked into that Bob?, you don't just say 'I want a judicial review' and get it - if that was the case there would already be one happening. It would be about the Government proposals to ruin the UK Coastguard - guess what? - we can't afford one, even with volunteers like myself chipping in, we can't afford to lose so we can't take it on. Research before sillytalk.

Quality!

Quite comical, in a strange sort of way - the 'species' they introduced (mostly Scots and Irish) didn't want to go there either, but I'll bet their descendants are glad they did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_Access_Campaign http://brighton.academia.edu/PaulGilchrist...ways_in_England

To clarify things for anyone taking the reports Leon is posting about the Sharkatag in Southwest Scotland at face value. 1. The traditionally most productive grounds could not be fished this year due to weather. 2. Only two days were fished this year instead of three, due to weather. 3. The tides in 2010 were 9 metre the first day dropping to 8 metre on day three. This year they were 7.7 metre on the first day, dropping to 7.2 metre on day two, with a slight kick to 7.4 metre on day three. Hardly like for like and small tides normally produce less elasmobranches in the area. Trying to make figures derived from events - knowing the above facts - say that numbers are down, leaves the door open for accusations of wanting the figures to be lower for whatever reason.

You are absolutely spot on Barry, this years event was bound to have less returns as the weather dictated everything. For the previous two years boats fishing from Isle of Whithorn have boated most tope and huss by a fair margin. This year the Friday was breezy and, although the boats got to sea, they had to fish inshore and couldn't get off to the tope marks. Due to the forecast for the Saturday most of those who had based themselves at Isle of Whithorn recovered their boats on Friday night and trailered them round to Ardwell on Saturday morning to launch. No boats went out from Isle of Whithorn on either Saturday and Sunday. I would say that any drop in catches is down to the fact that nobody has been able to fish the area which has been most productive in the previous two years.

Think the 'official' term used by the NGO's is 'extractive activities' - angling has been lumped in with this category as fish are 'extracted' from the water.

COAST, university of York - what a combination, at least they managed to keep Callum Roberts' name out of the report - used one of his disciples instead.

Believe that lot at your peril - the one they have now is a total NTZ, they'll say anything to get what they want.

But remember that, now that article 55 brings RSA's into the CFP, C&R will count as discards.

Have also signed up guys - FYI some fulltime coastguards have proposed an alternative to the MCA and the government which would see 9 fulltime 24/7 MRCC's retained, of which Humber would be one. It is worth asking the 'top brass', if they appear at the meeting a couple of questions. There is a lot of flack flying at the moment, in the direction of the MCA, about the lack of a written risk assessment on their proposals. They are supposed to address that this week but worth asking awkward questions about why it wasn't done prior to the consultation starting. It is also worth asking for more information on the fact that the computer system for the whole UK network will be reduced to just TWO servers (from the current 18)

Mmmmmmmmmmm a wee bit of side stepping the blame creeping into what mr Massey says now. http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/999/Coastguar...il/article.html

Thanks for letting me know mate, this one should work ok. http://e-activist.com/ea-campaign/clientca...n.id=%20%209223

The PCS union, which represents coastguard watch officers has a generic letter to MP's, MSP's, AW's etc etc on it's website at the link below. Their site will send an electronic letter to your representatives asking them to support the campaign against coastguard station closures, should you chose to join the campaign. Anyone can use their site to submit a letter to your MP, you do not need to be a member of any union. The first page asks for your name, address and email address - when you click to continue it shows you the letter which will be sent on your behalf. Should you then feel that you do not wish to proceed you can quit the process without the letter being sent. If you chose to proceed the letter will be sent and you will receive an acknowledgement email. Please fill it in and support our coastguards, it may be your life they save. http://e-activist.com/ea-campaign/clientca...n.id=%20%209223 .

Some good reading on the 'consultation' for the last closures of MRCC's http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/c...tra/31/3109.htm

This one's for you Paul - petition to save Humber coastguard station. http://www.scarborougheveningnews.co.uk/ne...rvice_1_2938682

They're not taking it lying down in Shetland, Tavish Scott is leader of the Scottish LibDems http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2011/01/17/...s-%E2%80%93-msp

Not too many actual 'views' have been erased mate - just the bit where everybody got a wee bit annoyed by the flamimg troll.

Doubt it, more lives put at risk by cutbacks.

Thanks Elton, and the other moderators involved, for restoring the thread. As the OP I feel strongly that what has been proposed by the Chief Coastguard will, inevitably, cost lives because it will build delays into the system. As a volunteer coastguard I don't think the proposal is workable. Sir Alan Massey has been led to believe by his 'advisors' that the idea has been trialed in an Ops room scenario using real watchkeepers and real time comms inputs. At Liverpool MRCC on thursday he was told that this is not the case - a trial had been promised (and minuted) at a meeting before he took up his post, but never took place. He agreed to check up on this and then hold the trial - people in the know are certain this will send the trial Ops room into meltdown as it is unworkable in the proposed manner. Having worked with some of these people for years I trust their judgement and look forward to it all falling apart. The PCSU have been involved in talks for some time with the MCA about these proposals and have put alternative proposals to them so we have to wait and see. If the person responsible for the near meltdown of the thread posts in a similar manner to before I won't hesitate to report it to the moderators, the subject is much too important to be lost because of one idiot.

Cheers for posting the link again mate, I'm sure the mods will restore the original thread eventually but in the meantime it's good to have the link available for anyone who wishes to sign it.

For my reply see link below - as Bob's question was about something I posted on another forum I felt it only right to copy my reply to it - I saw his next post there before here so posted a reply. http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/show...d=1#post3105654