Chris Shaw

You ask why, I tell you, then you rubbish it. The common with the belly could either be spawn bound, or it has not picked up the parasite. When the fish were moved they would still retain the parasites/worms in the gut that stops the goodness from the food being ingested into their systems, thus the fish would retain that skinny gutted look.

You ask why, I tell you, then you rubbish it. The common with the belly could either be spawn bound, or it has not picked up the parasite. When the fish were moved they would still retain the parasites/worms in the gut that stops the goodness from the food being ingested into their systems, thus the fish would retain that skinny gutted look.

Who told you this??? I really do hope this is a joke, it must be must`nt it? What a load of nonsense............... That means there would be hundreds of two tone fish around then........ [ 20 June 2002, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: Chris Shaw ]

Who told you this??? I really do hope this is a joke, it must be must`nt it? What a load of nonsense............... That means there would be hundreds of two tone fish around then........ [ 20 June 2002, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: Chris Shaw ]

The carp above are not weird, they are either hungry or they have some sort of worm/parasite infestation in the gut. They are just very very underweight.

The carp above are not weird, they are either hungry or they have some sort of worm/parasite infestation in the gut. They are just very very underweight.

Hope this helps. You can tie the hook as normal and then use a piece of fine nylon for the hair. http://www.coarsefish.com/Hairrig.htm

Hope this helps. You can tie the hook as normal and then use a piece of fine nylon for the hair. http://www.coarsefish.com/Hairrig.htm

Another way is to roll em around in a hot dry frying pan.

Now confused, not sure what you are looking for, you will have to find a flat lead of the right weight to hold the slope. Either that or if the slope is that severe that the lead still slides, then use the flat lead, but with a back lead under the rod top, and fish a tight line. Set indicator for drop backs.

Just go to your local tackle shop, they should have flat sided leads of most types. Try the URL below for the type of thing that you are looking for. http://www.foxint.com/products.php?productcode=AC2443 Hope this helps.

Have you tried jelly baits. Very very versatile indeed. Buy some Geletine, mix as required, see packet. When the Geletine has dissolved in the liquid, add 5ml of glycerin, then add your dry ingredients, when the ingredients have absorbed all the liquid, this should now be like a fairly firm mud. Spread into a baking tin, when cold and set, cut into desired size. The finished baits should be very firm, and will stand a good chuck. I think we used to use a pint of liquid, either water or milk to one sachet of Geletine Just think about all the different ingredients that can be used like this. A friend of mine some years back had carp to thirty pounds from the river Thames on these baits. Just a few words of warning. 1. Carp are known to have an aversion to Geletine, this is the reason for the Glycerine. Milk also does the same job, if used in the mix instead of water. 2. Always keep an eye on this mix whilst in the saucepan, it will stick like hell if left to long. 3. Keep the finished baits in a cool shaded place whilst fishing, you will find out why if you leave them in the sun.

This was spoken about before, and I believe the answer was lavender oil. So going along that line, try an old hat, and splash some lavender oil onto it. Apparently they hate the stuff.

This was spoken about before, and I believe the answer was lavender oil. So going along that line, try an old hat, and splash some lavender oil onto it. Apparently they hate the stuff.

The answer to your question is, yes, the fishing is easier, and it is not that the bigger fish get crafty, it is that they are out numbered by the smaller fish, and the smaller fish get to the food first. I have fished a water like this, it was a club water so overstocked that it was unreal, carp would suck paste bait from your fingers in the margins, whilst you was fishing. This water was about 16 acres in size, the carp were anything from single figure commons/mirrors doubles and twenties. You could go for a day and catch in excess of twenty to thirty carp. All the years that I belonged to that club I only ever caught one double, but did catch many many single figure carp. This was because the small carp just greatly out numbered the odd few bigger ones that where there. I have always looked at it like this, if you are fishing a water, any water, and you catch bigger fish than anybody else, or your average weight is bigger than others, or you are catching more than others. I would then say if people criticise your catches, ask them along to the water that you fish and do better, they will nine times out of ten turn down the offer. Well done on the first twenty, by the way.

As has been said. just make a a nice firm paste bait using your favourite flavours, tone the amount of flavour down though, as the baits will not be boiled. You can then just roll the paste into the size required, place in fridge a day or so before you go fishing to firm them up some more and then just mount on a hair as normal. Or just mould some of the paste around a bead or somthing , on the end of the hair. Paste baits on hair rigs work, I have used them and caught just the same. You just have to maybe reel in known again to refresh your bait. I suppose you could really take the whatsit, and steam the baits in a pressure cooker, not boilies are they Or you could fish a particle bait, such as chic peas, just soak for 24 hrs then cook ( bring to the boil them simmer until fairly soft), overcook and they are knackered. I have fished these once on a water with a boilie ban and done well (no flavour, no colour). I think they are a good very cheap carp bait anyway and have never seen them on a banned baits list. You can flavour them, colour them if you like so they look like little boilies. Black eye beans is another one, soak and cook the same way. Broad beans, another good carp bait, also butter beans, butter beans I saw take a water apart some years ago. If you was not on them you struggled to catch. People were just flicking out a butter bean into the margins freeline, sitting back, and just watching the carp swim into the margins and pick it up. The list can go on and on, all good carp baits, and I have as I say never seem any of them on a banned list. Boilies are not the be all and end all of carp fishing, not in my book anyway.

As has been said. just make a a nice firm paste bait using your favourite flavours, tone the amount of flavour down though, as the baits will not be boiled. You can then just roll the paste into the size required, place in fridge a day or so before you go fishing to firm them up some more and then just mount on a hair as normal. Or just mould some of the paste around a bead or somthing , on the end of the hair. Paste baits on hair rigs work, I have used them and caught just the same. You just have to maybe reel in known again to refresh your bait. I suppose you could really take the whatsit, and steam the baits in a pressure cooker, not boilies are they Or you could fish a particle bait, such as chic peas, just soak for 24 hrs then cook ( bring to the boil them simmer until fairly soft), overcook and they are knackered. I have fished these once on a water with a boilie ban and done well (no flavour, no colour). I think they are a good very cheap carp bait anyway and have never seen them on a banned baits list. You can flavour them, colour them if you like so they look like little boilies. Black eye beans is another one, soak and cook the same way. Broad beans, another good carp bait, also butter beans, butter beans I saw take a water apart some years ago. If you was not on them you struggled to catch. People were just flicking out a butter bean into the margins freeline, sitting back, and just watching the carp swim into the margins and pick it up. The list can go on and on, all good carp baits, and I have as I say never seem any of them on a banned list. Boilies are not the be all and end all of carp fishing, not in my book anyway.

Try here............ http://www.badgerclassics.com/

Try here............ http://www.badgerclassics.com/

When you defrost the hemp, try adding some Kevin Nash Nutra Sweet. Add some even if you do not freeze the hemp, always add after cooking when the hemp has cooled down When we used to do this it used to get the swim really fizzing with feeding fish. Do not know if you can still get it, have not looked at what Kevin Nash does these days.

What about Brooklands (Dartford) on the A2. Two pits joined by a very narrow channel, used to be free fishing with twenties a plenty years ago. I do not know what goes on there these days, have not been there for years and years, could be worth a look though. Thing is with Kent, they used to say years ago, if you fell in a puddle you would find carp.

That looks one lump of a mirror, well done. The part that baffles me is though, the statement that it is a previously uncaught, a fish that size must be quite a few years old. To make this statement you would have to have the complete history of the fish, and the water..... Sorry if you feel that I am putting a downer on the capture, I do not mean too, it is just that statement, that needs a bit more explaining. Once again nice fish to take from the top.

Ah, the lift method, absolutely fantastic method for catching carp in the margins...... Put your 2oz leads and buzzers away and give it a try.

Ah, the lift method, absolutely fantastic method for catching carp in the margins...... Put your 2oz leads and buzzers away and give it a try.

I have fished for carp since 1976. When boilies as we now know them came about, I went down to my local club water that was fairly easy for carp. Cast my two boilies out and sat back, come dinner time I had caught nothing, I reeled in one rod and replaced the boilie with the same bait in paste form, and cast it out, sat back and within 20 mins had a carp. Changed the other rod, and the rest of the day I caught carp. This could have been down to the fact that the fish did not know what a boilie was, this did use to happen. I have used loads of boilies and done my share of paste bait and particle fishing. The best catches that I have had in a single sessions IE:- More than one fish in a morning/afternoon/day have been whilst fishing either paste baits or particles. I once had 5 fish in a morning from a fairly hard London rese, the fish went between 12lb and just under 20, not bad for a morning. This I done several times. On one session I had another carp angler next to me, we were both fishing the same area by mutual agreement. I was using chic peas, he was using boilies, I caught several carp, he caught none, best he did was to loose one. He refused to change onto chic peas, which I had offered him. Beats me why, boilies are not the be all and end all of carp fishing. They have a place but are not the ultimate carp bait. Yes they did go mad on boilies on some waters and some they did not.