glennk

Spot on Jaffa, there is no need to add politics to kayak fishing or indeed any form of fishing. Its currently the one thing you can do in life thats free from rules and regulations, lets keep it that way. The whole Angling Trust and Anglersafloat business is appalling. They are like the secret service. You cant read anything on AA without being a member, now they have put a second level of secrecy in place for the AT members on the site. Once you have signed up you get a secret password to access a secret part of the forum. Sea angling information should be free and especially as AT claim to represent all anglers there should be no closed doors at any level.

Welcome to the world of angling politics and The Angling Trust. For many of you this will be the first time you have heard of anglers afloat or The Angling Trust. The mistake a few of you are making, is the believing that The Angling Trust now represent all kayak anglers. The truth of the matter is, that The Angling Trust now represent a very small group of kayak anglers who signed up to this (I would love to know the figures ??????????? of how many kayak anglers have actually paid up and joined this separate group, my guess is it will be about 6 people). The rest of us are waving a big 2 fingered salute to them and will continue to catch fish from kayaks regardless of what AnglersAfloat or The Angling Trust decide to do in there less than busy little lives. I wouldnt loose any sleep over it whatsoever. The Angling Trust and the NFSA have told every man and their dog that they represent all sea anglers for as long as I care to remember. What you need to remember is they only represent those sea anglers who signed up. Again Id love to hear what sort of number of Individual anglers this constitutes (Not clubs whose members dont even know who the angling trust are). The Angling Trust Are : 1. A private group you have to pay to join. 2. Completely unrepresentative of the majority of sea anglers. 3. Completely clueless.

The regions bass anglers have until the 3rd of December 2010 to save the regions bass stocks from commercial netting. North Eastern Sea Fisheries Committee have announced plans to allow netting of sea bass within the intertidal zone (ie close to the shore) within the area of Flamborough head and the Holderness Coast. Sea Anglers and other interested parties have until the 3rd of December to register their complaints regarding this proposal. Your letters should be sent to : Ms. Margaret Branson Defra Sustainable Fisheries Area 2C, Nobel House, London SW1P 3JR If you prefer you can do it by email to: margaret.branson@defra.gsi.gov.uk It would be best if individuals could draft their own letters of objection clearly stating why the netters should not be allowed into this area. However if you are unable to draft a letter yourself, please consider copying and sending the one below. Dear Margeret, I write with regards to amendment of the North East Sea Fisheries Committee Byelaw xviii, with specific reference to the addition of the introduction of five fixed bass net permits within the intertidal zone. The proposed area for intertidal bass netting is home to an established stock of sea bass. More importantly, the area of coast within the immediate vicinity of Flamborough South Landing is home to a very large stock of juvenile bass. It is highly likely that this area would meet the criteria for designation as a “Bass Nursery Area”. I feel strongly that this should be examined further before nets are allowed into the area and unrepairable damage is done. Please act now before it is too late. Further to my main concern as noted above, I feel you must also look at the value of the recreational fishery to the area concerned. Recreational bass angling is of major economic value to coastal communities. It means more spending in local economies by both local and visiting sea anglers. This spending is often greater than any that can be derived from commercial fishing from the same stocks. Kayak, shore and bass anglers from right across the region come to this area to fish for bass. The direct spending of this group of anglers (Fuel, Food, Accommodation, Tackle, Kayaks etc) is far superior to any spending made by individuals involved in commercial exploitation of the stock. Netting of the intertidal zone means that the commercial netsmen will be targeting the same group of fish which is of importance to the regions recreational sea anglers. If bass numbers are allowed to dwindle away then you can be certain that the impact on local communities will be far greater than any gains made through commercial netting. Whilst we acknowledge that the regions under 10 meter fleet have had a hard time of things of late, ie most of their cod quota being given to the more powerful (in terms of political bargaining) over 10 meter sector, we must object to your attempts to compensate them by encouraging a bass fishery within the area. Whilst we acknowledge that it is unlikely you will make a complete u-turn on the bass fishery proposals, I would like to propose a compromise. The above mentioned byelaw aims to allow five fixed bass nets of 400 metres each into the area. The compromise I propose is : * Split the coast into five specific zones. * Allow only 1 permit in each of the 5 zones. If you allow more than 1 net into the south landing area of Flamborough the potential effects could be catastrophic. * Allow only 1 net in each zone (Ie the 400 yards may not be made up of 4 separate 100 yard nets). * Assess the South Landing Area Of Flamborough For Designation as A Bass Nursery Area. Many thanks for taking the time to read my letter, and taking it into consideration when looking at the above mentioned Bye-law. Best regards – Glenn Kilpatrick www.whitbyseaanglers.co.uk

I love looking at them myself. Its been a great summer, not sure whats the most memorable, probably my new pb bass on a plug of almost 6lb. Hope next year is just as good

No take zone, where there was nothing to take anyway. Thankfully they havent yet got there hands on the real fishing grounds which stretch from south landing to Rheighton sands.

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Thought a few of you may enjoy these. This was my summer in pictures.

Thats just no age at all, seems so unfair. Apparently some of the lads up here knew him well as he came up to write articles. All the guys speak very highly of him and say how likable he was.

They are getting desperate, apparently net gain has hardly any angler input, except for the views of the usual nonrepresentatives who claim to represent us. Heard Pete Hansel was practically begging my mate to take part in his survey. My young mate Dan is well trained though and told him where he could stick his interview. Well done Dan.

Callum Roberst is a pr!ck. But sadly people keep giving him funding. The idiot wouldnt know 1 end of a fish from the other.

OMG, thats bad news Elton. Didnt know him personally but he used to post on our site. Dont think he was very old either. RIP Daz, and of course condolences to all his friends and family.

Just a few more snaps that I missed from August. Schoolie for Mike at Sandsend New Venue, new rope One move and the bass gets it. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/big_cod/2010/bass-august011.jpg[/img] 3lb 10oz for me on a new Yo Zuri Mike Shows how its done. This is him getting his first fish on his new Zonk

With the swell dropping and water clearing we decided on another bass session. I must admit that when I saw the conditions I was not overly optomistic as I felt there was too much swell. However the gruesome twosome, Dan and Damo told us that they had caught bass in far heavier conditions and that we just needed to apply a bit of effort. The first few hours were fairly boring with not a single take. Then as dusk began to fall Dan took the first fish of the day on his trusted Yo Zuri Crystal minnow. For some reason Dan then vacated his spot, so I quickly jumped in and it wasnt long before I hit a nice fish of 4lb that gave me a bit of a run around before I got it on the shore. Dan then decided to come back and join me and he was soon into a second. As the light faded we all hit more fish and it was clear they were feeding very close in, with my second taking the plug just as I went to lift it out of the water. Mike who had been struggling with the zonk, changed tactics and soon found a bass and a herring on a maria chase bw. However the lure of the day appeared to be the yo zuri crystal minnow with myself and Dan taking 3 bass each. Another great evenings fishing on the Yorkshire coast, and hopefully bigger bass to come in the next few weeks.

Today we opted for new kayaking ground. We had long talked about hitting the area around Whitby highlights and down into Hawsker for pollack. Whilst Dan, Damo and Mike decided to climb down at Saltwick I took the easy option and went from Whitby harbour. As I paddled out of the east pier I was instantly into coalies, then as I paddled to the bell bouy it was pollack. Only small but the couple of 3 pounders I got certainly gave a good fight on th light spinning rod. When I got to Saltwik the lads had long gone but I could see them further down the coast about a mile away. En route to the lads I had a couple more pollack upto the 6lb mark. I was catching them roughly every 20 yards as I paddled down the coast. Im now convinced that pollack are completely widespread across the whole of the Yorkshire coast. The bloody things are everywhere. I eventually found the lads working a piece of rough ground close to shore. Each of them had good pollack. Dan and Damo had them upto 8 pounds, and golden balls Marshall had gone one better and got a fish of over 9lb. We fished on and all took more pollack, Im guessing I had rougly 30 for the days fishing. My best filled the footwell of the yak and as I had no scales I estimated it to be around the 8lb mark which was the weight of the last pollack that filled the footwell. Not wanting to kill the fish I quickly returned it and watched it swim ever so gracefully back to the depths below. Not long before we set off back Mike hooked into a huge fish. Several times it nearly had him off the yak. Eventually the fish came alongside the yak. It was clearly a double figure pollack. Then would you believe what happened. The hook of one of the trebles got stook in mikes waders. The fish splashed twice and spat the other treble. Within seconds it was gone. Mike said he felt the fish was as big as the 9 pounder. Now I saw the fish and Im saying it was a double of low to mid teens. It was a beast Anyway, we all had another great day afloat on the wondrfull Yorkshire coast, and in the words of the great Ramrod, why put a book down when youve only read half of it. We will certainly be back for more, and hopefully this time we can recapture the big fish Mike lostand get it weighed. Today was awesome, with another part of our amazing coastline uncovered. All the fish fell to a variety of luresMy fish as always were on my beloved Yozuri crystal minnow red head. Mike used the same whilst Damo had an x-rap in mackerel pattern and Dan used a variety of Yo zuri's. Dont you just love fishing on this coast, there cant be many places to beat it. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/big_cod/pollack-glenn.jpg[/img] http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/big_cod/pollack-glenn.jpg[/img] http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/big_cod/yo-zuripollack-lighthouse.jpg[/img] http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/big_cod/pollack-saltwick.jpg[/img]

Well dne guys, sounds like a nice trip with some quality fish. Can you tell me how much a trip is please ? Me and mate are heading up soon to sample some of the quality bass fishing there, but we may also want to do some toping if the price is right.

www.wcsa.co.uk youll find the info from here

It was somthing to do with personal hygeine. Ya minger !!!!

Just get yourself a ladder

I dont think anyone could seriously question my agenda Alan. Ive spent the last 5 years of my life building a quality resource for the UK's sea anglers. The results of my agenda are clear to see at the top of most google sea angling searches. Ill leave you guys to waste another 8 pages whilst I go and enjoy my fishing.

How you treat these forums is quite sad Barry. Your one of a few who will cause an argument for arguments sake. Like I said theres 8 pages here of nonsense and you especially are a very good angler as Ive seen some of your catch pictures in the past. Such a shame you cant let sleeping dogs lie and do something more productive like tell us about your fishing outings.

Its such a shame that there are so many people on this forum with an agenda other than fishing. I cant recal the last decent angling report I read (with the exception of Karl chieftain one of course). Quite sad that you can go onto 8 pages arguing about the presence or non presence of a fish in a certain area. Anyone with any angling ability would do the research, hire the skipper, catch the fish, take the pictures and post a nice report about how it was done. The agendas of too many of you is to snipe at each other rather than be helpful, which is a big shame as Im sure your all capable of such a lot more.

Not quite sure about that Karl. Admitedly anyone who goes about claiming to be a great angler very likely isnt and has some sort of an ego problem. The best anglers I know are usally very modest. I think in boat fishing the largest part of the hard work lies with the skipper so most boat anglers arent actually that good. Its the skippers job to learn what grounds and wrecks fish when. The variables involved are endless and a quality skipper must take into account, Tides (size and state eg ebbing or flooding), he must take into account time of year, water clarity, he must advise on tackle and bait. So what Im saying is that in boat fishing it is a science but most of the hard work is done for you by the skipper, which is part of what you pay for. Its the skipper who is the great angler on most boats (regardless of who the skipper is) and often the lad who catches the fish has had good advice and a stroke of luck. As a shore and kayak angler I know from experience that again, the fishing is a science and the angler is a life long scholer. Over time you begin to notice patterns. Fish are creatures of habbit and will often arrive at the same time same place depending on a set of variables such as time of year, water colour, water temp, wind direction, swell direction, tide state, tide size, food availability etc etc etc. Two up and coming great anglers that I know are putting in a lot of effort at the moment and coming up trumps.