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First Extinction due to Commercial Fishing?

Leon Roskilly

By Leon Roskilly
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I don't beleive that fisheries legislation is good for the fish stocks at all. The eu certainly don't have a clue on holding on to any stock, Proof is the crappy track record to date, that responsibility should be taken away from them. I do concede that they are good at crises management however, They just instruct, stop fishing and catch less after the event, easy that bit is.They including defra may well be spending huge amounts of our money on management, however if was any good then we would have healthy stocks of herring, sand eel, cod for example. Even now for the south coast, the best (fisheries ) can come up with for the under tens is a lottery to share out a miniscule amount of extra allowed cod as they recon the stock is so low. I don't think the trawling fleet is good for the stock either. Figures i looked at this week, still suggest too much discard. Pretty sad when the management of our sea now looks like it's in the hands of these so called charities who are calling for the banning of fishermen and anglers from areas because it will look good for the cause as opposed to be of any effect, pathetic state of affairs.

 

Don't suppose we will know until the confiscation hearing, the fines and costs involved will depend if the fisheries have got their figures correct. Must be some truth in it however as the theives pleaded guilty.

 

Confused on the healthy stocks of herring, sandeel and cod bit, as ive no idea what a "healthy " stock is supposed to look like.

 

Whats the definition?

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Don't be confused here are some stats, :) Is your confusion based on some other landings somewhere as these ones mainly show minus'es.

 

http://www.fishnewseu.com/latest-news/uk/1...hed-by-mfa.html

 

Do you think it's about time the scottish high liners showed a bit of compassion and let the undertens share a bit of their quota?

 

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Don't be confused here are some stats, :) Is your confusion based on some other landings somewhere as these ones mainly show minus'es.

 

http://www.fishnewseu.com/latest-news/uk/1...hed-by-mfa.html

 

Do you think it's about time the scottish high liners showed a bit of compassion and let the undertens share a bit of their quota?

 

:whistling:

 

It will all end in the hands of a few big money men bit like 3 card brag the man with the most money wins.

 

 

paul.

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http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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I think you can say that about a lot of things in life Paul. You could certainly say it about your job as well, the strongest will survive in the angling industry the same as in the commercial fishing industry.

Unfortunately fish cannot play 3 card brag.

Regards.

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Don't be confused here are some stats, :) Is your confusion based on some other landings somewhere as these ones mainly show minus'es.

 

http://www.fishnewseu.com/latest-news/uk/1...hed-by-mfa.html

 

Do you think it's about time the scottish high liners showed a bit of compassion and let the undertens share a bit of their quota?

 

:whistling:

 

Nought new to munch on in those stats Barry. I take it by a " high liner" you mean a rich player?

 

If thats the case then the "high liners"are confined to very specific places: certain ports along the NE of Scotland, Whalsay in Shetland, and two or three smart oddballs from the likes of Orkney.

 

All of them have got where they have through hard work and a families willingness to take a chance over several generations .

 

As far as i know none of them have cashed in, ****ed off to some desert restort and abandonded the people that depend on them.

 

As for the under ten stuff, well how would that actually work when you consider how hard they have fought to keep quota local in places like Shetland, yet come up the alice in wonderland EU and those same evil rich skippers are but mites with zero control of what they allegedly own.

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Nought new to munch on in those stats Barry. I take it by a " high liner" you mean a rich player?

 

If thats the case then the "high liners"are confined to very specific places: certain ports along the NE of Scotland, Whalsay in Shetland, and two or three smart oddballs from the likes of Orkney.

 

All of them have got where they have through hard work and a families willingness to take a chance over several generations .

 

As far as i know none of them have cashed in, ****ed off to some desert restort and abandonded the people that depend on them.

 

As for the under ten stuff, well how would that actually work when you consider how hard they have fought to keep quota local in places like Shetland, yet come up the alice in wonderland EU and those same evil rich skippers are but mites with zero control of what they allegedly own.

Give it much longer of the rich green/broke journalist morning after scent and there will be very little for anglers to worry about.

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