"Profound Decline in UK Fish Stocks"

[steve good]

Sustainable means we will not give fishermen any quotas, we will just give them more aggregate dredging areas and loads of wind farms that make loadsofmoney and get loadsofvotes from the greens

 

We have fisheries management according to the green gospel

Edited May 8, 2010 by steve good

[Jaffa]

Incredible paragraph, this:

 

 

Taken from this article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-...me-1968226.html

 

 

"We're not saying the sea is empty of fish," says Simon Brockington, the head of conservation at the Marine Conservation Society and co-author of the University of York study. "But our paper shows there are nothing like as many as there should be."

 

On which day of the week or holy festival is the "many as they should be" moment found?

[wurzel]

Wurzel,

 

Fish landings, excluding shell fish for 1898 was a bit over 8 million CWT. I suspect that this is not far from today and certainly not four times. Incidentally the "industry" employed a shade under 80,000 men and boys to catch them, which is a shadow of the number employed today for what is in effect, the same amount of fish.

 

Ryford

 

Hello Ryford

 

I wonder how many men and boys were employed on farms back in 1898 compared to day, its the way of most industries.

[Jaffa]

I think he'd catch very little fishing in his great great grandad's 30 foot open sailboat. Unless he's got cojones the size of grapefruits he certainly wouldn't be fishing out past Shetland and over near Norway like I saw him fishing on an episode of the TV programme. Yet before 1880 (which I understand is when they started putting closed decks on the boats) fishermen caught plenty within 3 miles of the shore.

If he could catch fish three miles out in a boat that cost £10,000, why does he fish two hundred miles out in a boat that costs more than a £1,000,000?

I suspect the answer is that a million pound boat can make him a rich man, a ten thousand pound boat can only make him a living.

 

You "suspect"? So how did it happen? I don't fancy going to the bank to borrow 10K let alone a million. Please do tell the story of these greedy git fishermen..

[Jaffa]

You "suspect"? So how did it happen? I don't fancy going to the bank to borrow 10K let alone a million. Please do tell the story of these greedy git fishermen..

 

Heres one story

 

Fishing families in remote UK areas took enormous risks to make money.

 

They were at home with boats and the sea and did well.

 

Some made serious money.

 

They still live where they were born and their risk taking means the development of skills and employment in jobs the London press has never heard of.

 

Want to develop offshore windfarms? then thank the history of engineering that runs through herring and then oil at places like Aberdeen.