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hi,

 

I'm fishing a nice lake which is stocked with carp, tench, bream, perch and roach . I can't seem to get past the baby roach to the bigger species not inc carp. Can anyone give me a tip on the float rig I should use?

 

Thank you.

 

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Hi,

Try the 'Lift Method'.Beautiful way to fish relatively close in.

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the method that you are useing may not be the problem. Try changing baits and hook size to be a little more selective.

 

Lozza is right, changing your float set up will not stop you catching the small fish but changing to a bigger bait or a tuffer one might. Bait choice will depend on which species you wish to catch. If after the Tench, Bream and Carp then a large sized pellet, chunk of meat or a couple of grains of sweet corn on a larger size hook may work. If you want the Perch then a giant lob should work and still catch the other big fish.

 

However if you are using maggots and other small baits then the good and bad thing about them is that they will attract bites from everything that swims. I would be tempted to try a big lob with one or two bits of corn and see if this attracts the bigger fish, but it might just swap the small roach for small Perch :D

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

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Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
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Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
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Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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Lozza is right, changing your float set up will not stop you catching the small fish but changing to a bigger bait or a tuffer one might. Bait choice will depend on which species you wish to catch. If after the Tench, Bream and Carp then a large sized pellet, chunk of meat or a couple of grains of sweet corn on a larger size hook may work. If you want the Perch then a giant lob should work and still catch the other big fish.

 

However if you are using maggots and other small baits then the good and bad thing about them is that they will attract bites from everything that swims. I would be tempted to try a big lob with one or two bits of corn and see if this attracts the bigger fish, but it might just swap the small roach for small Perch :D

Sorry, didn't explain my point.I always use this method(Lift) when targeting Tench/Carp close in.The terminal tackle will, therefore, reflect the size of fish I'm after.

Also, by having all the weight very close to the hook will take it straight to the bottom avoiding bites on the drop from 'nuisance' fish.

Really exciting way to register bites too.

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It's not always necessary to use a bigger bait. Sometimes fish like bream, and especially tench, won't look at a big bait after the early part of the season. The thing then is to use baits that don't attract small fish as much. So for example use casters instead of maggots. You might still get the odd small fish on caster but in general they are nowhere near as interested as when they see a wriggling maggot sinking through the water. You need patience though, because it takes time for the fish to "come on" to them.

Personally I've never been a big fan of the big lobworms, give me small redworms any day.

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