new carp rods1 or 3 &line

[larry1]

Hi you,

Carp guy's can you give some help i'm looking for a carp rod /rods to match the 2 Shimano Medium Big Pits Iv'e just purchased.do i buy 3 diferrent rods 1 for margin,1 for clearwater. 1 for snaggy swims or go the whole hog&buy a Daiwa Infinity X 3.5 lb test curve ,The Rolls Royce of rods which according to a well known carp angler on another site is the only rod he uses now has he says it do' all 3 funtions admirably. Or is he just promoting rod because he's sponsored by Daiwa. Altough he says he would have used rod regardless of bieng sponsored by maker.

Because I'm not interested in fishing more than one rod at a time at the moment. iget into enough just fishing one rod. So i thought 3 cheap rod's would come £250 £300 .1 could get the daiwa infinity X for less than that.& when thats paid for if i like it, get another one next year. Also what line Make/b/s etc i can use only mono line do i use on the big pits I was looking at 12 lbs for clearwater&15lbs for snaggy swims i'd like to try some distance fishing in the future thats why iv'e got the Big Pits.Theres that much out there i thought i'd ask the grass roots angler's that use the line rather than take the opinion of the net carp colmnists who may just promoting a product because there sponsored by them .

[Gaffer]

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Originally posted by larry1:

Hi you,

Carp guy's can you give some help i'm looking for a carp rod /rods to match the 2 Shimano Medium Big Pits Iv'e just purchased.do i buy 3 diferrent rods 1 for margin,1 for clearwater. 1 for snaggy swims or go the whole hog&buy a Daiwa Infinity X 3.5 lb test curve ,The Rolls Royce of rods.....

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Diawa Infinity's are one of the best rods on the market for sure, but there are other good rods out there that are half the price.

Buy some carp mags and have a look at what you can get for your money.

As far as test curve, 2 3/4lb tc will do for most of the waters that I know of. You could put a 3oz lead over the 100yrds mark with ease.

Saying that, I use 3.5lb tc rods for most of my fishing. My rods are 'tippy' enough for margin work yet can put a 4oz lead out to 145yrds without any problems.(also good for the method)

 

Rods are a personal thing and what feels good to one angler may feel different to another.

I've got plenty of rods, but my Grey's are certainly the best I've felt.

I always use three the same so I can pick up any rod and hit the horizon, or use any rod for the margin.

 

Get yourself down to a trusty tackle shop and ask them for a play on their 'best bellers'. Then come back here and ask others on here (or elsewhere ) if anyones had any probs, before parting with any cash.

 

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Originally posted by larry1:

...Also what line Make/b/s etc i can use only mono line do i use on the big pits I was looking at 12 lbs for clearwater&15lbs for snaggy swims...

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12lbs would be a good mono to go for. It's got enough guts to cope with the harshest of situations, yet won't compromise on distance.

 

I haven't used mono though for at leat 3 years as I prefer braid. (I would never go back to mono)

 

Hope that helps.

[larry1]

Thanks Gaffer,

For your prompt reply what make are your greys I use the method a lot on my own clubs pool so if they do method as well i may be able to do away with the rods i use for the method at the moment i could sell them to help offset the cost of new rod's would you stay at 12lbs on the 2 rods i eventually want or go 12 &15 lbs.

[Newt]

larry1 - why only mono?

[phonebush]

Larry1,

I know very little about Euro carp rods. Having said that I was very impressed with the Globetrotter in compairison with others I have seen. Is it expensive?

On mono, I now am back to exclusively using mono. But I also use a very slow tip on a shorter rod. Newt likes the braids and is used the how fast they are. Remember a good mono IMO will have at least 15% stretch up to 25%. Strength of line (abraision, tensile and knot breaking) and line size as well as stretch should be a part of your personal equation. Also, the "look" you project might enter into this equation.

I believe one rod is best for specific species unless you are able to fish a couple times a week. Get used to it and you will gain confidence IMO.

[larry1]

Newt , unfortunatly,i need to use the line on my own club;s pool &at the moment the club has a ban on braid so we can use mono line only they believe braid cause's to much mouth damage .its voted on each agm but still gets banned.

[Newt]

Thanks larry1. Interesting. It would seem that if mouth damage was their concern they would require that the hooklength be mono but would still allow a braid mainline. Hmmmm.

[larry1]

newt an angle i hadn't thought of try to suggest it agm

[Peter Sharpe]

I just get a feeling Larry that you've almost decided on the tackle you want to use, before you've decided what is necessary to catch the particular fish you are after. When you said you feel like trying some distance fishing in the future, it's almost as if you regard it as just another branch of angling, rather than what is sometimes a necessary means to an end.

 

It's all down to personal opinion here, but as far as I'm concerned, 3.5lb tc rods are very much specialist tools, and ones actually to be avoided unless you really can't manage with something a bit lighter. I sometimes think there is almost a macho thing creeping in here, where a beefy rod is the carp angler's penis substitute.

 

Unless you fish exclusively on huge pits that are absolutely stuffed with thick weed, a 2.75 rod will reach and handle almost any fish you are likely to come across, with a bog standard Shimano baitrunner too, unless you are a terrible caster. In fact, you could easily find that you can cast a lot further with the lighter rod, and enjoy your fishing more.

 

It's an interesting point about the use of mono or braid though, as it seems that a lot of people have gone back to mono. Perhaps it is just because of the expense of spooling up with braid, or perhaps people are finding that they actually prefer a line with a bit of give in it. You can always compromise and use one of the very low stretch monos that are now available. The only allowance you have to make is for the fact that most of these lines will break at the strain shown on the label, whereas some of the standard lines allow a considerable safety margin. If braid is banned for the reasons you suggest, then they would also have to ban all braid hook lengths. On second thoughts though, I would hate to put ideas into their heads.