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My little green pointy-eared mate is right!

 

It's just too tempting to fish when you have the gear with you. The result is you have a quick walk while looking at the water, pick somewhere you fancy and start fishing.

 

One day spent just looking (I mean really looking) will repay you a thousand times. I've said it before, but I think the general level of fishing has gone down since the closed season was abolished. That used to be 3 months of really valuable lessons on fish behaviour and watercraft.

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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Ok you guys, heres your comfy jackets that make you cuddle yourself. You see what happens during the close season...?

Gozzer, stop waving that bankstick around, you'll have someones eye out, its not a lightsabre...

 

Renrag

This Years' Targets:- As many species by lure as possible. Preferably via Kayak. 15lb+ Pike on Lure...

Species Caught 2012- Pike, Perch.

Kayak Launches- Fresh-8 Salt- 0

Kayak Captures- 14 Pike, 1 Perch.

 

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As much as it's a good idea i couldn't walk round a lake without wanting to put a bait in, temptation would overcome me! But if you have the patience it is a great thing to do to get a feel for it and see where the fish are and work out the depths.

 

Or compromise and spend the morning walking round and eyeing up the best spots then try some different baits/tactics and fish in the afternoon with the spots you had picked from earlier. Now theres a plan :)

As famous fisherman John Gierach once said "I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I like fishing because it's the one thing I can think of that probably doesn't."

 

 

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Personally I wouldn't start mapping out water depths etc like it was a military operation...blimey if it's only a smallish water you can just have a few trips trying out the likely looking spots. You can roughly plump your swim in a matter of a few minuites and be fishing instead of wasting lots of time doing wargames manouvers LOL. If it's a wildi'sh water then I'd use maggots, casters, worms and sweetcorn. Groundbait would be brown crumb, with a bit of corn a few maggots, and possibly a handfull of hemp and/ or trout pellets mixed in....i'd mix the groundbait quite dry to give a cloudy effect on it's way down. Good luck !

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following a day or two of sun (if we get any more) try throwing bits of floating bread as free offerings, its highly visible even through the thickest of weed and if you resist the temptation to fish then their confidence will grow unaware of your plans to catch them off the surface......

 

 

failing that i would stick to natural baits such as maggot and worm...... have a look for overhanging trees and bushes they can hold some natural fruity treats that may slip into the margins unnoticed

 

the main thing i would do is fish light!!!! there's no point sitting there with your line cutting through the water like a lazer beam and a hook that would scare jaws

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the main thing i would do is fish light!!!! there's no point sitting there with your line cutting through the water like a lazer beam and a hook that would scare jaws

 

 

I don't think fishing light would be a good idea in a snaggy weed packed pond. Personally I'd use at least 4lb but air on the side of safety and fish 6lb straight through. If the fish are wild it's unlikely they'll be hook/ tackle shy.

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Firstly why don't you contact the owner then ask if you (and a couple of mates) could tidy the pond up a bit, by clearing out any un-natural snags, eg tyres, shopping trollies etc... then you will be able to find depths and features, whilst doing your bit for conservation, as well as gettng off to a good start with the owner.

 

DO NOT attempt to clear anything from the water without permition, also make sure there is someone there incase you get into any difficulties.

Making the most of it

 

Chi dorme non piglia pesci

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I do admire you guys who have the self control to turn up at a piece of water and have a good look around with out fishing. If I see water and don't have a rod I'm in a state of complete anxiety. I know it makes sense to have a good look around but I find it so hard, if I turned up with out the rod, I would only end up heading back home to fetch it after a while.

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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I get as much enjoyment from exploring, watching and mapping as I do from the actual fishing to be honest, so it doesn't feel like a hardship. All my winter fishing is based on lots of walking and observing in the warmer months, so when the time comes I have a decent idea of what's what and I can start off confident. If I didn't do that and just took a rod I don't think I'd get very far down the river and would miss out on all that lovely untapped water.

 

Rich and I mapped out a gravel pit we have access to over a year ago and haven't fished it yet! When we do though, there'll be no wasted time, we'll know exactly where to go and what to expect. (It turns out it is mostly very shallow and weedy with two pronounced deeper areas, like trenches. A very interesting pit...)

 

I think it's all the stuff you do without a bait in the water that catches you the fish, really. If you're in the right place at the right time and fish sensibly, you have to work quite hard to go wrong :D

 

If you prefer to fish straight away, I think I would walk round the lake and pick a swim, and try one small natural bait like maggots/casters on light gear and one larger bait like lobs or bread or corn or something on heavier gear, in separate spots, and see what turns up. Maybe move swims few times if the water is quiet, and take my time with the plumbing rod.

 

I have to say that often the preparatory work can be much more enjoyable than the actual fishing :lol:

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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