Of all the different types of coarse angling just who is the most skilful?

[Guest Elton]

Originally posted by Scott:

My "in-depth" view of sea angling is based on the following facts:

 

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Scott

 

 

Impresive, Scott, yet you don't feel that sea anglers use a variety of rigs. This, I find strange.

 

Our experiences must be different - I sea fish, albeit with varying degrees of success, and use the same rigs over and over again. However, I know sea anglers who use loads of different rigs.

 

Elton

 

 

 

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[Guest Scott]

I seem to have upset a few people for that I appologise, sorry guys.

 

Every branch of our sport require skill.

 

The fly angler putting a fly in the right spot.

 

The Pike and Carp angler locating the fish.

 

The river angler controlling his tackle.

 

The match angler buiding up his peg by carefull feeding.

 

The sea angler long distance casting

and many more

 

none are more skillfull than the others you just cant compare them.

How comfortable would you all be with the following tackle:

 

12m pole

Quivertip

Beachcaster

Multiplier

Fly rod

jerkbaits

bloodworm & joker

making bollies

casting 200yds

etc

if you can answer yes to all then you are a skillfull angler.

there is at least 4 that dont feel comfortable with

 

Sorry again

Scott.

 

Ps if the forum gets boring just mention bedchairs and stand back.

[Guest Elton]

Scott,

 

Now that's a good answer But the total that i don't feel comfortable exceeds four!! I'll have to work on some of them next year.

 

Elton 'never touched a pole' Murphy

 

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[Guest Steve Burke]

One of the best things I like about perch fishing is that perch can be caught on almost any different method from almost any different water. An all round perch angler therefore has to learn a particularly wide range of skills and thus never becomes bored. He can also easily adapt these skills to other species, although he's never as likely to do as well as the specialists in each field.

 

If I had to restrict myself to just one species, even my beloved perch, I'd definitely become bored. If it were modern style session fishing the boredom would arrive very quickly. However, I'd never knock those who like this laid back style of fishing. I even enjoy the odd such trip myself.

 

I think Fred J. Taylor got it right when he wrote "My favourite type of fishing is the one I'm doing at the time".

 

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[Guest thecarpangler]

I wouldn't describe my session fishing as "laid back".

I tend to work at my fishing, always attempting to entice something, or cause something to happen.

Mind, it's probably not as exhausting as standing waist deep in the middle of a river, steadily feeding a gallon of maggot and controlling a 20' stick rod for 6 or 7 hours.

 

From the 'list' I'm down to 2, jerk baiting and multipliers (I presume you mean casting with one) and the former normally requires the latter.

Oh, and the 200m, not with a baited trace, but with a bare lead.

 

This is not meant as boasting, it just means that some carp anglers can, and often do, fish other methods.

 

One thing that the matchmen can learn from specialist/carpers is bait flavourings.

They can feed bait, but they seem reluctant to experiment with flavourings.

[Guest Newt]

LOL - keep it up guys. Is Invective Slinging a required skill for UK Angling? If so, I will freely admit that you folks have to be the best in the world at it. This stuff is fun to read.

 

Gaffer (and other carpers) - if you really want to get bashed, just head to the US and then walk into most any tackle shop and tell em you are actually fishing for carp. You will get some really interesting reactions. Myself, I usually say I'm after catfish unless I feel like shocking the others in the shop. At times I really am after catfish.

 

Elton - this one has to be the "thread of the month". No way to top it IMO.

 

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[Guest Graham E]

Steve. I am with you 100pc there!

Nice way to put it Elton.

[Guest Steve Burke]

Originally posted by thecarpangler:

I wouldn't describe my session fishing as "laid back".

I tend to work at my fishing, always attempting to entice something, or cause something to happen.

 

Even in the middle of the night?

 

There are a few session anglers who work at their fishing but, judged by my Wingham members, very few. You may well be one of these few. However, to be anything other than laid back on a long session you've got to have tremendous energy and concentration.

 

I reckon that anyone using a bedchair is having a laid back session. I'd stress I'm not knocking this style of fishing. It just doesn't suit my personality. Having said that, I have done a bit of session fishing for carp myself and enjoyed it, but I've got to be in the right mood.

 

It's the same with piking. Most days I prefer to lure fish which, if done properly, requires a lot of concentration, and for me at least several breaks. Some days I prefer to deadbait, which is more relaxing, although here I'm far more active that most pikers as I'm usually regularly moving my baits, either by twitching or recasting, and also groundbaiting to attract roach etc.

 

I can't resist ending without repeating what my wife says when I tell her I'm going to do a session: "You mean you're going camping, and whilst you're camping you're going to do a bit of fishing"

 

 

 

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[Guest Mark Cunnington]

Oat. There will be no matchmen in Syndicate 3. They might start outcarping the carpers. No doubt some of those hooks will be flying from UK to US when my CAG is up for renewal!

 

All this talk about bedchairs. When is a bedchair not a bedchair? When the bottom section is folded up to make it into a chair. Does that still count Steve?

 

I thought us carpy boys might take a bit of hammering. Mind you, you'd have to have a serious sense of humour by-pass not to be able to look at all the carping paraphernalia and not be able to laugh at it. But then over a of grand for a top quality pole makes me smirk. Come on you match boys, it can't be fishing when you haven't got a reel, can it? At one of the commercials where I fish there is a match lake which is stuffed with small carp. I sit there and think... How can they sit there for all that time, poncing about with that pole catching carp of about a pound plus? Of course they're looking over at me thinking... How can he be sitting there, poncing about with those two rods, not doing anything for hours on end? And there you are, as others have said, each to their own. Maybe I should have asked the definition of who is the better carp angler but it's still as ambiguous. One of the great things about fishing is that it is so hard to pin down in terms of hard cold statistics because there are so many variables from day to day, venue to venue and swim to swim. Then you can add, time available, when that time is available, access to larger fish, pressure those fish have seen and so on and so on. Trying to get your head around comparing different types of fishing is even worse. Still, that's why I asked.

[Guest Elton]

Originally posted by Steve Burke:

I can't resist ending without repeating what my wife says when I tell her I'm going to do a session:

 

 

"I've got a headache, Steve?" ?

 

 

Elton

 

 

[This message has been edited by Elton (edited 15 March 2001).]