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I caught them, it wasnt by accident, I was fishin' for them in Berlin. A bunch of worms, on warm muggy summer nights did the trick. No big ones though.

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Open bail or baitrunner really depends on the bait and therefore the rig rather than anything else.Save writing loads here if anyone wants a copy of the guide I wrote some years ago "UK Catfishing" just email me at- budgieburgess55@ntlworld.com and I will send you a copy of it (minus photographs and diagrams to keep the size down) back as an attachment.

And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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I don't think there are many Cat anglers on here but I will ask anyway and I am sure a few of you have picked up the odd one along the way maybe my accident on Carp baits?

 

A large number of Cats seem to be caught on pellets and boilies and I know a few sing the praises of pellets as a great Cat bait. I have started to wonder is this misleading. Pellet and Boilie do catch Cats but are the numbers distorted because lots of anglers use them for Carp. So the % of anglers fishing pellet and boilie to Cats caught may well be rather poor.

 

So if you dismiss the pellet and boilie approach do you think softer baits are a much better option? I am thinking along the lines of Luncheon Meat, Liver, Squid, Worms, Dead baits, Live Baits. Considering Cat angling is a niche/specialist area I am guessing that the softer baits are fished a lot less and probably catch a higher percentage of fish then the well known Cat Bait "Pellets"

 

Anyone thoughts?

Dales, too many choices

If, when, why, what? :)

 

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Dales,

 

How did you find switching over to catfish fishing from say Carp/Tench style fishing? It's something I've thought about having a go at just for the experience but I'm not sure where to fish, how to fish etc at the moment :-)

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Dales,

 

How did you find switching over to catfish fishing from say Carp/Tench style fishing? It's something I've thought about having a go at just for the experience but I'm not sure where to fish, how to fish etc at the moment :-)

 

 

Just butting in! People seem to come into catting from two main areas,Carp and Pike fishing.Both bring over the same approach that they are used to.Both seem to work to an extent depending on venue. I came into it from a mixed back ground ! so have a kind of "hybrid" approach. Check out my "UK Catfishing" for more details.

And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Just butting in! People seem to come into catting from two main areas,Carp and Pike fishing.Both bring over the same approach that they are used to.Both seem to work to an extent depending on venue. I came into it from a mixed back ground ! so have a kind of "hybrid" approach. Check out my "UK Catfishing" for more details.

 

No Problem Budgie, I'll send you an email about the it at some point today. The question was really to anyone but Dales seems to just starting catfish fishing so I was interested how he found switching to fish for Catfish :-).

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No Problem Budgie, I'll send you an email about the it at some point today. The question was really to anyone but Dales seems to just starting catfish fishing so I was interested how he found switching to fish for Catfish :-).

 

Hi Errm, I am really just starting out. I have fished for Cats 5 nights over the last 3 years and all of them on the same water with very restricting rules and I did not do very well and my partner managed a bigger Cat then me on one of the occasions she came along. So this year I have decided to have a decent try and put some time and effort in to it.

 

I have very little experience of Wels but have done plenty of Cat angling in Thailand and have caught around 60/70 Cats of various species over there. Budgie is right that I think with my dabblings over the last 3 years for UK Wels I have thought more like a Pike or Carp angler and so am determined to think differently this time and I have just recently read again Budgies advice that he sent me a few years back. At the moment I am trying to read as much as I can about Wels and fishing for them and am finding that as Budgie has said alot of what is out there is influenced by anglers path in to Cating. Hence this post about pellet and boilie maybe not been as good a Cat bait as many claim, maybe highlighting that they drifted in via Carp fishing.

 

I often go off on tangents with my fishing and spend a year or two doing more of one type of fishing then another and as I like "exotic" or "unusual" fish it would be only a matter of time before I heard the call of the Wels :D From a tackle side of things I plan to use my Carp rods at 2.75 TC as I think that should be enough for most of the Cats I will come across. I watched a U-Tube video the other day on fishing for Cats by some well known anglers and they where using 6lb TC for 40lb Cats :o Even though I am not an experienced Cat angler I still think most of what I have come across is a load of nonsense.

 

For power and excitement I think it is so much better then Tench/Carp fishing (That may offend some) but it simply is for me anyway. The fight is awsome on correct balanced gear. I had one at 19lb 10oz at the weekend on a 2lb TC rod. It was a great experience, hugging the bottom, charging off to the snags. On a 6lb TC it would have been a winching exercise. I am sure you can fish for Cats in a "Carp Style" but my gut feeling is it will be so much more fun to fish for them differently to Carp fishing. I want my "Catfishing" to be different to my other fishing and not simply a copy of the way I would Carp fish.

 

As for venues I have found a club that has a lake with a few in that I can have ago at with out spending to much cash and without the long journeys needed to get to the Leighton Buzzard club waters and will do the odd day ticket at waters that are not so known for Cats. I don't really want to just go to a water with huge fish and bank a monster right off. I think I will enjoy trying to chip away at my PB while hopefully learning along the way, I am hoping to do around 10 nights this year which will double my entire Cating experience. My goals are modest just catch a few, but I know the club water has two 50lb plus fish. So there is always a chance of a goodun.

 

 

 

Dales, too many choices

If, when, why, what? :)

 

I would never have had you pegged as a fan :D

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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