heres my tip for fixing paste /meat to A hair

[Tenchbloke]

Hi Ladies and gents

hope this idea may help you all keep that cube of L meat or yummy paste in place when useing a hair rig

needs a little refinement but early days

 

i devised this one about 3 days ago on the side of te lake i was fishing aftre getting a little frustrated at losing my baits continuously

 

line cutting is the main problem i find useing meat baits and doesnt take long for the line to cheesecut across the bait,especially on retrieval or when u hit a snag.

 

take some 1/8" stiff silicon tube(thats approx)....its got to be the stiff type with very little flex

cut this about 1/4 inch oversize to the bait

 

Push a baiting needle thru the very tip of the s tube at one end

 

Pull tube through the bait with the needle nice and slow useing fingers to keep the tube entering at right angles(if you dont do this the tube will enter at angle and will split the luncheon meat as you pull through,

If your to quick on pulling the same can happen!!)

 

line up the hook end of the tube with the bait so its flush with bait and then snip of the top of the tube at the Baiting needle end to remove the needle leaveing just a little excess (to attach the Boily stop)

 

now you have a nice stiff tube through the meat which you can pull through the hair ,the hair cannot cut the meat and the tube has a massive surface area gripping the meat /paste bait relative to a hair effectively stoping the cheesecutting action

 

when hair is pulled through then attach you bait stops across the tube so it rests on the top of the excess and apply some superglue help secure it against silicon,push the tube with boily stop flush flush and trim other end to flush fit again

 

Ive found this method very good enabling me to get multiple recasts from the same cube of meat and paste and even on failed strikes you find the meat will useally still be in place

 

My main issues that im still hopeing to resolve is how to keep the silicon tube in place if their is a failure as occasionally when you DO lose the bait the tube will fall off something i dont want to happen as im not into polluting either fish or lake beds with bits of silicon!!.the superglue helps but is not perfect!.Things im going to try are :-

 

cut a V grove in the top of the silicon next time to help bed the baitstop against it with the glue to give a better fix (not easy for chubby fingers like mine!!)

 

find a plastic male ledgerstop of the right diameter to push into the tube once hair s threaded at the baitstop end again to prevent loss of the tube

 

Anyway early days!!!

 

have fun hope it helps!

[Tenchbloke]

hehehehe obviously not much of an idea judging by the responce ,guess your all seasoned veterans.

Any way for me a new convert to the hair rig game it at least got me thinking!!

 

So For all the new uns to the sport haveing spent yesterday useing the method ,i found that to keep the tube locked to the hair so that strikes do not remove it if u lose bait,simply get a boily stop whose thickness is larger than the tube diameter!!!

 

Hey never said i was clever

 

pulled in 2 carp both over 10 pounds on sunday and a Tench so i was happy and only used 5 cubes in 6 hrs float ledgering

saves on the spam!!!

[terry t shirt]

might be a totaly useless point but i rebait everycast with both paste and meat so it the scent trail is fresh rather than washed out. usint the bits that come off as loose feed.

[Puzzled]

It's a novel idea Tenchbloke.

Personally, I find that meat stays better on a hair rig when it's anchored with a small piece of dry spaghetti as a stop.

Depends on how long you want to make a tin of meat last I suppose, I normally use what I need to kep the bait fresh and take home and freeze the remainder.

[Tenchbloke]

might be a totaly useless point but i rebait everycast with both paste and meat so it the scent trail is fresh rather than washed out. usint the bits that come off as loose feed.

 

Good point m8,i try and cover that by dipping the cube or paste in the liguid from the loosefeed i use ,normally hempseed and tutti frutti flavoured crushed sweetcorn.Sometime i will wipe it around the fatty deposits from ther baitbox carrying my Meat

 

really not sure how long the experts on this would want to keep a bait down before recasting ,mine tend to stay on the bottom probably 30-45mins or so before lack of a bite or even small fish nibbling make me feel a sence of paronoia that perhaps the cubes covered in weed or complely missing!!

 

maybe i should get used to fresh bait every recast

[Tenchbloke]

It's a novel idea Tenchbloke.

Personally, I find that meat stays better on a hair rig when it's anchored with a small piece of dry spaghetti as a stop.

Depends on how long you want to make a tin of meat last I suppose, I normally use what I need to kep the bait fresh and take home and freeze the remainder.

 

Ta m8 ..one of the main reasons i came up with this is because i will sometimmes recast 2/3 times to get the meat in the right place above my loose feed area.Ive never been the most accurate caster and though i do overcast and then pull into position ,i normally fish a water full of lilly pads and some bottom weed where 2-3 feet left or right and your baits lying on a pad waiting for a frog!! or pulling into position sometimes gets the bait covered in bottom weed,so in reality it helps me get new bait spot on by recasting without watching the bait sail off on my final attempt to get it right.

[Andy_1984]

i know this is an oldie but i just seen it pop up somewhere on the forums. seen mick brown making a sort of screw out of copper wire and attaching it to a short hair and then screwing it in to the luncheon meat

[wotnobivvy]

i know this is an oldie but i just seen it pop up somewhere on the forums. seen mick brown making a sort of screw out of copper wire and attaching it to a short hair and then screwing it in to the luncheon meat

You can buy them in different sizes. I forget the name but I have some in a tacklebox. They work quite well for paste and soft pellets as well as meat

[Dales]

i know this is an oldie but i just seen it pop up somewhere on the forums. seen mick brown making a sort of screw out of copper wire and attaching it to a short hair and then screwing it in to the luncheon meat

 

I also llke to use a home made wire screw with small bits of meat but I do use Tenchblokes method of tubing when using half a tin of meat for catfish.

[Andy_1984]

You can buy them in different sizes. I forget the name but I have some in a tacklebox. They work quite well for paste and soft pellets as well as meat

 

buy! mate its a bit of wire