Coarse Fish Removal - New Byelaws To Protect Fisheries

[Worms]

The future is fluff chucking - they don't seem quite so inclined to hara-kiri, though they are even better than coarse anglers at bitching about each other's methods, and some of them are now starting to consider eating a trout tantamount to cannibalism.

How the worm has turned (pun intended )

 

I bet that's because they are all converts from some other stocked water style of fishing!

 

All hail oh holy fish god :notworthy:

[ColinW]

Those river rules seem sensible enough to me. They let us take fish up to 8 inches to use as pike bait but stop our eastern european friends taking home the big barbel. The only pike I've ever eaten would be within the proposed size range. Since I very rarely catch a grayling they could probably do with a bit of protection.

If you want to eat fish, go and catch a bucketful of whiting. Far better eating than any freshwater fish and easy enough to catch on freshwater type gear!

[Steve Walker]

The only thing it changes is that it will become illegal to take coarse fish from a river with the owner's consent.

 

I don't think fish being taken with the owner's consent is actually a problem.

Edited December 10, 2009 by Steve Walker

[Worms]

Those river rules seem sensible enough to me. They let us take fish up to 8 inches to use as pike bait but stop our eastern european friends taking home the big barbel. The only pike I've ever eaten would be within the proposed size range. Since I very rarely catch a grayling they could probably do with a bit of protection.

If you want to eat fish, go and catch a bucketful of whiting. Far better eating than any freshwater fish and easy enough to catch on freshwater type gear!

As Brian pointed out and as was discussed at great length on this forum and as was admitted by the man at the EA (adrian.taylor@environment-agency.gov.uk), they can't police the existing fish theft legislation, so how does bringing in more legislation prevent people from stealing fish? It won't affect thieves and poachers, only legitimate anglers who like to eat the occasional fish

 

One of the main rivers that I fish is full of trout, salmon and grayling with the odd sea-trout thrown in for good measure. The most legislated fish in that river is about to become the grayling........probably the most abundant fish in the river.

 

One of the points about my gripe is that the EA are proposing to limit the size of fish available to take down to a single years cohort. Keep removing that and you will end up with depleted fish stocks and no breeding stock for the future. Not good for conserving fish stocks which is the whole idea of the legislation. It was the angling gutter press that started ranting on and on about Eastern Europeans eating the few fish left by the murderous gnashing otters (to protect the cuddly wuddly little carpy warpies called fluffy and willow and woodbine and Ogden's bleedin' nut gone flake)

 

As for whiting, yes, lovely but a 150 mile round trip as opposed to a ten minute walk. I wouldn't say thay are better to eat than any freshwater fish either. You obviously haven't eaten many grayling or perch

Edited December 10, 2009 by Worms

[ColinW]

As for whiting, yes, lovely but a 150 mile round trip as opposed to a ten minute walk. I wouldn't say thay are better to eat than any freshwater fish either. You obviously haven't eaten many grayling or perch

 

I sometimes forget not everyone is luck enough to live by the sea!

I haven't eaten grayling but I have a had a few perch. I just don't much like the taste of freshwater fish, even wild trout. (I haven't tried gudgeon, they are supposed to be nice. Probably need more than 15 for a meal )

I don't think the grayling stocks will suffer. There's no way all of a single year class will be caught by people who kill them and once they get past the maximum size they should be safe. Size windows are standard practice in a lot of places around the world. Those that do survive produce more eggs than the smaller ones that would be breeding if there was just a minimum size limit.

[Worms]

Gudgeon are over-rated in my opinion, a bit mushy when cooked. As you say you need quite a few for a meal

 

I think that a much better way of regulating grayling stocks for food would be to suggest limits based on the weight of fish and make a wider range, say 12oz to 2lb.

[Steve Coppolo]

Environment Agency News Release

 

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This is what happens when the arrogant and egotistical few, claiming to represnt all anglers, gain the ear of politicians.

 

[barry luxton]

Gudgeon are over-rated in my opinion, a bit mushy when cooked. As you say you need quite a few for a meal

 

I think that a much better way of regulating grayling stocks for food would be to suggest limits based on the weight of fish and make a wider range, say 12oz to 2lb.

 

 

Who is going to pay for the policing of your new proposels. Don't ask me as a tax and rate payer, as i have enough already to pay for.

[Steve Coppolo]

If you want to eat fish, go and catch a bucketful of whiting. Far better eating than any freshwater fish and easy enough to catch on freshwater type gear!

 

Well, it's alright at the moment to catch whiting to eat. But for how long, now that the eco bullies have got their foot in the door?

[Worms]

Well, it's alright at the moment to catch whiting to eat. But for how long, now that the eco bullies have got their foot in the door?

Precisely why anglers need to get together and present a unified front. No use quibbling about the past, get together now on sites such as this and show our strength!