bobdurauntti

Really :lol: are you making plans for him ;) ;)

Yes, but after just 3 months into the job!!!! Its a bit harsh to collectively criticise a body that has 4 different sectors, all of which are used to working to their own specific agenda or principals, and then expect them to speak with four tongues, it will take time, if they are still making these mistakes 18 months down the line then I would accept that you have a case, but come on, do you go straight into front line firefighting after 3 months, do you not get training and a transitional period?? Why not afford these guys the same respect.

Perhaps the person from the angling Trust who was asked for a quote or commenting on the story was from the freshwater and coarse sector where catch and release is considered a standard practice, that is certainly my assumption, after all, the Angling trust is comprised of all sectors of the industry. There is nothing to suggest that this was a comment made solely by a member of the marine team, in fact the wording of the response indicates that it was not, my point before the usual howls of derision commenced was that it is understandable that someone not associated with sea angling i.e. a coarse rep may make a general comment or quote that fits the bill for their sectors, but not necessarily will ring wholly true for sea angling. To deride the marine team and AT in general for comments made by a single person is largely unfair.

So you knock your tench, carp, perch roach and chub on the head then Elton, and you would happily break rules on Sea trout and Salmon

Its all that Leon Roskilly's fault, he misrepresented Martin Salters importance to the Labour party

It'll be that bloody Leon Roskilly again :lol: :lol: If not some other miscreant misrepresentative misbehaving themselves :D :D

I'd still blame that darned Leon Roskilly, it has to be his fault, it usually is :lol:

You must be so pleased glennK

By the way are the NFSA still running or have they amalgamated into a super power yet?

If your giving out teaching and spelling lessons Steve, there's a few on here who are much more in need than me, although that doesn't fit in with your argument, which is not very strong if you have to resort to insults. While your taking your acid tablets you may as well take some chill pills, you'll end up with chronic indegestion taking your self so seriously. If Jaffa is Alex Salmond then that was one hell of a flukey guess, especially as I was not trying to 'out' anyone other than a tongue in cheek comment. Jesus H. the reason no-one comes on the conservation board is because a few of you have your shreddies stuck up where the sun dont shine, lighten up man, go fishing or something!!!! If you had taken time to read my original comment surely it must have struck you that it was tongue in cheek, of course I could have added a couple of smiley's but that would have been too obvious. Chill out Steve your beginning to sound paranoid. There we are one just for you. Just so you know like.

Wow, great come back Steve. Your supoose to take anti-acid tablets for an excess of bile, sounds like your just taking the acid tablets on their own. You are Alex Salmon and I claim my £5 recognition fee. :D

But we have my dear boy, we have. Its called the NFSA, and a bloody good job they are doing as well, keeping the lunatics at bay that is. Bd.

Blah Blah Blah Blah..... But your still going to tell us right..... I've got this, I've got that, I've done this & I've done that, from experience usually means you've done fook all and know even less Your evidence of this is where exactly? Right so you come on an SEA ANGLING forum call fook out of anglers in your first post and expect credibility. Genuine question' which wild stock populations are these then that have been significantly impacted by anglers' Funny I went down Newlyn market early the other morning and was amazed by all the anglers lined up selling their illegal fish, Elizabeth was beside herself, as where the merchants, all these anglers selling boxes of fish. The MFA officers didn't know what to do with themselves all this illegal fish being sold by illegal fishermen, driving the cost of fish down. One MFA officer I spoke to said its the same all over the country, no matter where you go, at every market in the land there's anglers selling boxes and boxes of illegal fish on the markets. Of course they are far too busy to put a stop to it chasing the odd commercial bounder. This 'pie in the sky' figure you seem so concerned about, if its wrong then it blows your argument out of the water, either they are a significant financial driver or they are not, your argument does not stand up to scrutiny, if you say the figure is wrong, then they cannot have an impact on UK fisheries. Strange, but I've read this thread over and over again, but can't find anywhere, were anyone (other than yourself above) states that all commercial fishermen land illegal fish. Are your experiences real or imagined, or do you normally just talk poop. Once again, something that only you talk about, your not doing very well so far are you, I'd get that chip seen to if I was you, it seems to be giving you a list. I've no idea, and neither have you, one thing is for certain, the survival rates are a damned sight greater than being dragged along the seabed in a 90mm to 120mm mesh net for up to 3 or 4 hrs hauled to the surface and then dumped back overboard because the fish is either too small, not the right size (there is a difference), not a targeted species, not the right kind of species, not worth landing or illegal to do so under the quota system. You are not in a position to preach to anglers over the ethics of capturing fish. Possibly, but as you haven't proved anything yet, I fail to see what I'm trying to disprove. I don't think anyone would deny anglers kill fish, and in the end quite a considerable number of fish will die, either for consumption or as a result of being caught. However, if you are saying anglers kill more fish than are killed by commercial fishing, then I reckon your living in cloud cuckoo land I will not waste my valuable time arguing with an irrational nutter.

Not that sharp are we, 19 ton of Dovers landed by your buddies flooding the market, and you can only blame anglers. Never mind sharpshooter, footshooter is more appropriate, its about time tools like you 'woke up and smelt the coffee', your ignorance and drivel insults genuine fishermen, and your pathetic attempts at ridiculing anglers shows you to be exactly that - pathetic. How someone with such a lack of understanding of fisheries and who obviously has such a low intelligence themselves can make assumptions and or castigate a third party as to their own level of intelligence is quite remarkable, did mummy write your reply for you. Now jog along and go and play with your toy boat. Are you a wannabe fisherman

If they suffer from condensation on an open Yak, they'd be even more susceptible on a boat I'd av thought, particularly one with an enclosed wheelhouse where temperature may vary quite alot.