dreamer

Does anyone know where you can get books printed that include colour photos throughout the text rather than in a colour plate section. A number of fishing books have done this: examples are John Harry's 'Savay' and Rob Maylin's books. I have tried several book printers without luck. The only solution so far is to go for full colour litho quality print which is prohibitively expensive and not viable for the project in question. Any suggestions/advice would be greatly received. Many thanks

Dear all, The following represents a first stab at the chapters for the book. I've also indicated where some of the contributions might fit in brackets. Chapters 1 A Plan for All Seasons [2] 2 The Unexpected [3] 3 Serendipity [1] 4 Mystery [2] 5 Days to Remember [1] 6 Close Encounters [1] 7 Childhood Memories [1] 8 Favourites [2] 9 Comedy and Farce [1] 10 Rites of Passage [0] So far the possible content ranges from ghost stories to mysteries of the deep! I'll try and contact everyone by pm over the next two days regarding possible content. In the meantime I would be grateful for any feedback/thoughts on the above. Also, if anyone has a good idea for a title post it here! A signed copy of the finished article for the winner??! [ 28. January 2004, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: dreamer ]

Alan, It's inspiring stuff and would be delighted to include it. I think there are now eight of us: John Clarke, Newt, Alan Pearce, Chris Plumb, Leon, Surfacepopper, Alan Taylor and myself. With regard to content and structure, I will try to put together a first ‘aunt sally’ outline for everyone who has agreed to contribute, to comment and add ideas to.

A good thread Steve. A book by John Wilson's cameraman might be an interesting read. And real stories from commercial fishfarms, netting operations and importers could be educational? Otherwise anything by the unsung Broadsmen and Fensmen of the last fifty years would find a place on my bookshelf (as do the recommendations you give on your site!)

Leon, It's great to have you on board. Given the quality of your 'River bank' poem, we might have to revise the predicted sales figures!

John, Sorry for the delay in responding but I’ve been off-line for a few days. Essentially, my motivation for this project is to get a book into print so that the new publishing business has a published example. I am not worried if it doesn't breakeven and realistically don't expect it to. The main thing is to produce something that the contributors can be proud of and that might help to promote the new business. This is why I thought it would be nice to make it a forum exercise and donate any royalties to Elton's running costs fund. If it only sells 30 copies it doesn't matter, although with the quality of the contributors here you never know. It will also be available on Amazon (both UK and US) so perhaps Nugg can promote it across the pond! Regards Dreamer

I'm sure Fox do one; see the carp section of their catalogue after bivvy microwaves but before you get to bivvy radiators..

Chris, Surfacepopper, do you think we have enough material? I'm happy to do this with just 3-4 of us although it would be nice to have sufficient material to allow the book to logically hang together. As I indicated before, this isn't a commercial exercise, I just want to get a project on the books and think it might as well be something that I'm interested in. I would be grateful for your thoughts. Regards

Thanks for the responses. Chris and Surfacepopper the material is great. I know someone who had a low twenty cat from the Great Ouse and they will vouch for the awesome fight that ensues when they're hooked! Newt, it would be great to include tales from 'across the pond'if you're happy to contribute. Johnclarke, I'm also sure there is a place for brief stories like yours. I do see this as a forum project and wouldn't personally want to dictate what goes in. I'm happy to contribute my editing thoughts but there are others here that are far more skilled in this area than I will ever be. Perhaps a small editing group? I think realistically we need somewhere between 20 and 30 reasonable stories/pieces to fill a book, with a number of 'shorts' to add further interest. Taking the loose headings: pleasure, absurdity, frustration, serendipity and occasional euphoria We are off to a good start, but will need quite a few more contributions if it is to work. Has anybody else got a story to tell? A favourite swim, time of year, character, species, bizarre happening, success from defeat, surviving the elements, big fish, small fish, angling philosophical enlightenment, red letter day etc etc. Thoughts of all, most welcome. Regards

Have you tried the Little Ouse?

Any Budding Writers? I have a small publishing business and am looking to expand from the academic texts that I currently deal with. I would like to publish a collection of fishing stories and wondered if anyone would like to contribute? I don't think the book should necessarily look for the monster catches but rather stories that convey the pleasure, absurdity, frustration, serendipity and occasional euphoria that angling gives us. I would also like it to cover a wide range of species eg from the humble gudgeon through to, say, the hapless burbot expedition. The book could include illustrations but not colour photos (b/w are possible). However the cover could include colour photos if necessary. It would be nice if this could be an Anglersnet project and whilst it is unlikely to be a commercial success I would propose donating any royalties to Elton's web fund. All rights would remain with the authors. The book will be listed on Amazon with picture etc and everybody could give it reviews on the Amazon site. The intention is that it should be a bit of fun. No one is expecting contributions to rival Chris Yates and co! Contributions could range from a few paragraphs to a few thousand words; the odd poem might also be included? I would appreciate any thoughts.

Steve, Sorry I didn't get back sooner, I've been away from a working terminal for a couple of days. Unfortunately, commitments have won and I can't get there this weekend, but good luck to all who are going. Congrats on the cracking perch. Regards

Steve, This looks a really generous offer and I'd love to come and have a go for those tench and talk books! However, I'm not sure if I can sort out other commitments I've got this weekend. I'll discuss tonight and let you know tomorrow. Best Regards

Pretty depressing that such short-sighted views still exist. I've had zeds to 12lb 10oz and they look quite awesome in the light of a headtorch as they come towards the net. There were illegal stockings in a number of lakes in my part of the world in the seventies and what followed was a temporary explosion of small zeds which very soon stabilised (2-3 years) with no adverse effect to the fisheries. To this day all produce good match results with all stages of fish represented. If anything, it is the predator balance that alters as nature settles things down. If you get a chance, fish for them, they are very impressive fish when you see them close up.

8 October 2003

Tony, There's a lot of good advice here and I hope you get it sorted out. I assume that your intention is to include colour photos etc? The reason I ask is that I'm looking for a project to self-publish and to have as an example in the portfolio. However, the technology at present does not cater for colour plates and black and white photos can be variable in output quality, depending on the composition. Illustrations, diagrams and tables etc are fine. Hard back and paperback options are available and colour photos for the cover are ok. Marketing and distributing a special interest book is always going to be a problem and you need to be innovative. However, as part of the process the book would be listed and available through Amazon and a full cover shot would appear on the Amazon site. You can even add your own reviews! I am guessing that this option probably doesn't meet your needs however if you are interested, I would be happy to fund the exercise and you would retain full copyright etc. I still have John Siddley's book and would love to see a contempory addition! Regards

Steve, Thanks. There really isn't any rush though, especially under the circumstances, as I'm unlikely to get out until next season now! Regards

Steve, Thanks for the reply, it was signed to me so it shouldn't be hard to spot. I actually lost it several years' ago and am getting withdrawal symptoms! ps Did you ever have any thoughts about the B&W pike rods? Regards

Had my copy pinched! Anyone got a copy for sale, (almost!) any condition ok. Cheers Dreamer

There is another site where anglers are debating this rehearsing the usual arguments and sentiments. I know this has been covered at length on here. Does anyone know where I can find the threads where the critical points are made. I've been searching but can't find it.

Many Thanks I'll keep you posted!

Thanks Wunnus and Rykko, for the responses. I had a quick look around yesterday. I know Friars meadow but unfortunately I live 10 miles from Sudbury so don't qualify for the free fishing. I found Rodbridge ok, but struggled to find access around Liston (also where can you get Long Melford tickets?). There was a very pretty mill pond area out this way but it all looked as though it was private no fishing?? Do you know how much a Sudbury/Melford ticket is? It looked like it would be great to put a boat on the upper stretches to explore but I don't suppose this is possible. Thanks for your help!

I'm looking at devoting my very limited piking oppotunities to the Stour around Sudbury. I've not fished it and would appreciate any advice, views and details of club/day tickets. Thanks and Regards

The problem with the Broads in the Summer is that there are thousands of pleasure boat anglers who have no idea regarding pike fishing and who leave unattended (and usually inadequate) tackle in the water for long periods of time. This is a problem that I'm sure is not confined to the Broads, but is one that is particularly accentuated because of the huge summer tourist industry there. There is also no effective bailiffing which further aggrevates the problem. Last weekend, in a two hour boat trip around Wroxham I counted nine sets of unattended tackle (not people down the bank chatting; tackle in the water with the anglers in their bungalows or left over the back of boats). This is why summer piking should be re-considered on the Broads. If something is not done to protect the fish from these idiots then with the ever growing tourist numbers the future of pike fishing on the Broads must be seriously in doubt.

Wanted Does anyone have any Bruce & Walker 12ft John Watson pike rods for sale?