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Are MCZ's A 'Done Deal'?


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Interesting to see that some think so:

 

http://www.bridportnews.co.uk/news/lymenew...f_Dorset_coast/

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Interesting to see that some think so:

 

http://www.bridportnews.co.uk/news/lymenew...f_Dorset_coast/

 

 

er, That meeting was about Special Areas of Conservation (SACs) not Marine Conservation Zones (MCZs).

 

The legislation behind them, and the process of designation (including how much influence stakeholders can have) are quite different.

 

Especially in that both SACs (and Special Protection Areas (SPAs)) cannot take account of social or economic considerations and are based entirely on the scientific case for protection.

 

see: http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/m...pa/default.aspx

 

 

 

MCZs will be created according to Government guidlines, so in that sense are a done deal.

 

But it will be 'stakeholders' who will consider the data and the guidlines to decide exactly where they go, and what measures are needed to provide the level of protection so that they meet each area's particular objective.

 

But the powers that be will need to be satisfied that they do indeed fulfil all the requirements before a final decision is made by the DEFRA Minister.

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Sorry, Leon. I'm all acronym'ed out. Whatever initials are used, they're all threats to angling. Seriously, I think we should come up with our own name for the collective lot of them.

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Seriously, I think we should come up with our own name for the collective lot of them.

 

 

Marine Protected Area (MPA) is the generally accepted collective name covering NTZs, HPMRs, Natura 2000 sites etc etc etc (oh! and MCZs)

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GAM's - 'Good Angling Marks' - will probably cover most of them.

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Let's hope so :)

 

I think we're looking at it from a different perspective. I mean GAM's is probably what we refer to them as now.

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I think we're looking at it from a different perspective. I mean GAM's is probably what we refer to them as now.

 

 

I know ;) (It was simply too good to resist!)

 

 

The thing about MCZs is that they are meant to be a nature conservation tool, not a fisheries management tool.

 

And are meant to protect 'habitat' not fish.

 

And 'habitat' is what makes an area important to various creatures (including fish!).

 

So, it's not simply a case of protecting 'rocks' or 'worm beds' etc, but protecting a habitat that supports a range of biodiversity, and ultimately supports the population of the water column with organisms, including food for fish and fish for us to catch!

 

Having identified candidate areas for protection (eg a number of rocky areas, worm beds etc), then the task will be to look at which of those areas will benefit best from protection with minimum disruption to the activities of different stakeholders.

 

Being selfish, the best possible outcome would be to identify features which, given protection, would become enriched with fish-life in an area where damaging activity was banned or restricted, but remains accessible to recreational sea-angling which would not need any restriction to achieve the conservation objectives of the MCZ.

 

Second would be an area where now no (or little) angling takes place, but because of the protection afforded, (perhaps restricted) good angling becomes available. Or overflow benefits increases the angling potential over a wider area than encompassed by the MCZ.

 

Third would be pushing the choice of area which require protection from angling away from areas which are important to angling to areas of similar ecological value which aren't important to angling.

 

And yes, there is the likelihood that there will be areas where other stakeholders consider the ecological (or scientific) benefit of protection against all users as overidding stakeholder interests.

 

So, the coming MCZs present both opportunities for better angling in future as well as threats of restriction on anglers with no significant benefit to anglers in return.

 

And that's why it's important for anglers to get involved, and to obtain the data and arguments that will deliver best value to angling from the MCZs that are definitely coming, and not simply sit back and wait for the worst outcomes to happen.

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And that's why it's important for anglers to get involved, and to obtain the data and arguments that will deliver best value to angling from the MCZs that are definitely coming, and not simply sit back and wait for the worst outcomes to happen.

 

Or sit back and let one or two individuals with their own agendas dictate how it's going to be on our behalf, negotiating away our fishing heritage for no good reason and without our permission.

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Letter to the ngo's.

 

Dear Sirs, as there is no evidence of damage caused by the rsa to any habitats, please do not arrange any zones to be restricted for the same.

 

End of discussion as far as i'm concerned.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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