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Croix and Peter, where are you coming from?

What sort of questions are you asking to get the "we hate pike,zander,perch" etc?

 

I know and have fished with lots of matchmen and many of them are very experienced anglers, and the only time they "hate" pike is when one invades their swim in a match. Quite a natural reaction I would say.

 

Never mind though, keep up the campaign against match anglers, who knows, PETA just may take up your cause for you.

 

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Hi Den,

 

No campaign against match anglers, it's just the reaction I get from a lot of the matchmen/pleasure fishermen I encounter whilst out lurefishing. Statements like "I hope you're not putting them pike back in" or "there's too many bl**dy pike in here" are very common.

I have no desire to see an end to match fishing at all, it's just that I find a fair few 'seem' to have little regard for fish and fishing outside of their own angling.

 

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Croix and Peter, where are you coming from?

Right you two behave his started of as a decent totic and now you are at full pitch against match anglers. :mad:

 

It's plain to see The Lure Chuckers cause all the agro ???

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I too am not an expert on musky. I bet Newt can find a picture of the beast for you.

It is a fish caught on lures. It's reputation is a fish of 10,000 casts. Muskellunge and Northern Pike are often mistaken for one another. The musky has a motled stripe up and down. The Pike has dots or stripes back and forth. Musky are long lived and gain very slowly by compairison to most other species. I believe they require a rather high density of prey fish.

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Pretty pointless starting a campaign because it ain't gonna happen by legal means. There is absolutely no way the EA would grant permission and the various environmental groups like English Nature etc would throw a fit. Why would we need the Muskie anyway? The pike exists in the majority of the waters in the UK so why do we need another predator?

 

What next? Lions, tigers, hyenas? We don't have any of them (although plenty of smaller big cats it would appear) so let's start a campaign for them to be introduced! It's no sillier than wanting Muskies.

 

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Croix:

So do you also disagree with having Rainbow trout and carp in the UK, along with I'm sure many other fish that have been introduced here from abroad ?

Why stick to fish species??

 

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I agree with Leon if the tiger muskie is genuinly sterile then each one would only replace a pike in any place they were introduced,what a spectacular looking creature I would love to catch one.This subject grew out of debate on another board on the subject of the probable spread of zander in the Thames,where they would almost certainly breed and alter the predator/prey balance and there were a lot of people looking forward to that day.I guess in fantasy land if every fourth or fifth five pound Thames pike were replaced by a zander it would be nice but not at the risk of the detriment of the pike and perch population,and what chance of controlling that!!

I've watched nature programmes on the telly since David Attenborough was a fresh faced young man and just about every corner of the world has a species flora or fauna in it that's not native and causing trouble introduced by mankind by accident or design,just look how far trout have traveled since Victorian times.

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Leon Roskilly:

 

 

My vote would be to return our waters back to the way they were in the 1950's (minus the pollution!), rather than further messing about with the natural biodiversity.

 

You never appreciate what you once had, until it's gone :(

 

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Fishing B.C.! Like that one! Leon, you'll have to join CAMRA, the Campaign for Real Angling :D

 

Burbot, now there's a sensible idea. Ceilocanths (spelling?) might be another option, but not so sensible.

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