Strange statements!

[Eddie]

Peter Waller:

Odd little comment in Anglers Mail this week. A fellow has sent in a picture of his girl friend holding a carp, nice girl (lucky bloke), nice fish (lucky girl)! His caption comments that she used to coarse fish, but now she carp fishes. Ummmmmmmmmm, aren't carp just coarse fish or have they been elevated to a higher plain?

 

There are plenty of gems out there, any more?

Could the answer simply be that she used to fish for coarse fish in general, but now she specialises in fishing just for carp?

[Alan Roe]

Please be gentle with this one chaps as it easy for folk to get hot under the collar with this type of discussion.

 

From a game anglers point of view as carp do not possess an adipose fin they are simply one of the coarse species.

 

Now you coarse types GET ORF MY LAND!!!!! Keeper Set The dogs on them!!!

[Newt]

What Alan said!!!

 

And FWIW, I have read and re-read Peter's original post. I really can't see anything there to object to.

 

The quotation wasn't his and it was a bit strange given that you folks classify carp among the coarse fish.

 

And while I enjoy catching carp, they are still fish. Can't be game fish by UK definitions. Missing some structures. Can't be sea fish since they live in fresh water (or brackish). And your only other choice is coarse.

 

Unless you want to ditch the UK useage and go with US. In that case, you would have game and non-game species. But lots more would fit into the category of game fish. Not carp though. They fall squarly into the "trash" category (an informal sub-class of non-game). Some of us are trying real hard to change that perception but it is a slow go.

 

On the up side, by US classification, you would put pike, perch, grayling, and maybe a couple others into the game fish category along with trout & salmon.

[mpbdsnu]

peter mccue:

 At no time did I state ALL Carpers, I said SOME.

I saw red and skipped past the word "SOME" for which I appologise.

 

After that it does, imo, become rather generalised!

 

"If these Carpers had any idea of the skill levels required to catch big Roach,Rudd,Dace,Perch etc,"

 

Once you have a shoal of any of the above in your swim feeding then you are going to catch plenty and chances are that amongst their number one or two 'biggies' are going to be caught too. No great 'skill' involved in that. The above can be done with little knowledge of the art of fishing and with the most basic of tackle and knowledge of its usage.

 

"I'll bet there's more people had 20lb Carp than had 2lb Roach..Oh it annoys me."

 

To finish your post with the above is abrasive and likely to illicit such a response from myself and possibly others too.

 

To Peter Waller - I saw nothing wrong with your initial post, a bit tongue in cheek, so to speak, but we all like a bit of banter!

 

Eddie has it spot on, and which I mentioned myself, that the chap simply meant that "she used to fish for coarse fish in general, but now she specialises in fishing just for carp?"

 

Its quite an obvious answer really, but peeps just have to have their 'fix' of having a pop at carp anglers and/or carp angling.

 

[ 01. December 2002, 06:44 AM: Message edited by: mpbdsnu ]

[Gaffer]

Peter Waller:

Gaffer, I think that you are being overly super sensitive here, I really do!

Peter, you're right, I was being overly sensitive and probably overly defensive as well, for which I apologise to you and all.

 

Peter Waller:

I have to say that some of those who specialise in carp angling are sometimes prone to this, it is almost a carp 'thing'.

Again, very true. Now I'm going to sound like a three year old here, but 9 times out of 10 the carp anglers are provoked by unfounded sweaping generalisations.

 

Peter Waller:

On a personal basis, and I make no bones about, I simply can't get excited about carp in the context of bivvies, ultra-cult and wheel barrows, that leaves me cold.

Peter, FWIW there is one particular form of fishing that I detest, but you'd never know which one.

I never have a pop because it's a legitimate and legal method of fishing, so I keep my opinions to myself.

Yes I could make my point by continuous tongue in cheek comments, but I won't, because it's wasted energy.

 

I thought that this (your) thread was becoming a trend of tongue in cheek comments aimed at carp anglers in general. If I'm, which I think I am, wrong about that then I apologise.

 

Peter Waller:

Gaffer, we are on the same side.

We are, and I'm glad.

[Guest andypiscator]

hey, everybody, chill will you, go fishing.

anyway, carp are just course fish.

andy.