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[Renrag39]

What I was getting at Phone (and Worms) that that is the usual layout for all British Anglers, rod in right, crank with left.

Try eBay uk Phone, may possibly have a few more for you to select from over here?

 

I'm just the same btw, got a nice little Abu C5501 from Budgie. May be getting an Okuma Tormentor soon though as it's ok on a heavier set-up but a tiny bit beefy for my roadrunner! Damn, more gear I HAVE to buy...

 

Really need to sell a load of my feeder rods and reels. Might as well get rid of my deadbaiting gear too...

[RUDD]

Having been a top class caster I can see no reason why not use a multi for long range coarse casting, but that's as far as I would go with one. I used a selection of small ones years ago for spinning and loved them, and did use my Penns a couple of times on "the Ocean"to get well out

 

But to be honest, a competent caster will be able to cast just as far with a large FS as with a multi,and under most conditions, on the bank (not an open beach or field) then the FS wins hands down A high degree of skill and control would be required to put a baited rig and 2oz 140 with a multi,whereas the FS would deal with it very simply.

 

Yep, if distance is vital, and the bank conditions are suitable, then a multi will do the job with a heavy weight, but who wants to use 4/5 oz for freshwater?

 

And if you can cast 150 with a multi, then you can cast 150 with a large FS.................multis are not magic reels that transform your casting, you still have to learn to cast well.

 

Den

I suppose multi's are more suited to pendulum or off the ground casting as opposed to the overhead thump used for coarse angling.

See your point about skill and control - I use a 6500 mag elite off the beach and it took some time to tune it to my casting style and for me to get used to it (I OTG cast) - cant see many straight from the box type anglers having the time or patience to use a multi.

For distance fishing or Cats the Pen 525 (used for rough ground beach work) has plenty of power to handle big fish.

 

Budgie - retrive rate? When playing large fish I prefer a lower retrive rate and more cranking power.

A high retrive rate also causes line twist and tangled hooklenghts.

 

Then again when on the beach there have been countless time when a higher retrive would have stopped me losing gear on snags as I could have got the lead lift working a bit quicker!

[Dick Dastardly]

I have absolutely no idea why Phone or Rudd think the lack of retrieve rate I mention as being a problem is to do with playing fish! Although you would struggle to keep up with a carp belting towards you with a multiplier! Its simply the slow retrieve rate would pee most people off (just waiting for some one to quote the higher ratios multipliers have as "evidence" they are faster

 

So If I'm wrong then why dont people use them for course fishing then? Ive given the reason that I and most other multiplier users dont so be interesting to read why the non multiplier users dont think it is

[Phone]

BUDGIE,

 

How about I just put a giant handle on my baitcaster? I don't know why I mentioned fish retrieval either. I thought rods and reels were for catching fish? Silly me!

 

No reel in the world can handle a "belting carp". Equally, no guide in the world would allow me to use a baitcaster (after he nits out 50,000 birds nests for me). Here's a US perspective - not mine.

 

Spinning:

•Twists the line when "cranked on the drag".

•Can increase lure-tumble during casting.

•Are easier to set on the floor of the boat - reel sits on floor. with the rod ready to grab quickly. Bait casters ALWAYS roll over and sit upside down.

•Are easier to learn to use overall - no settings for spool spin, and lure weight.

•Works nicest with 2 to 12 lb. line (for BWCA use).

•Are easier to hold in your hand. The reel's weight is under the rod instead of on top of the rod like a baitcaster reel.

 

Baitcaster (multiplyer)

•Do not twist the line when you "crank on the drag" - line goes out linearly and returns the same way.

•Allow the lure to cast more accurately with less tumble

•Work better with heavier lines and braided lines - 10 to 20 lbs.

•Require that you adjust the reel's spool friction for the weight of each lure that you cast. Change a lure, change the friction setting on the side of the wheel.

•Require the user to have a good feel for the weight of the lure, the casting distance and the spool friction.

•Make great, trolling-only rods especially for big fish.

•Do not sit well on the floor of the boat - always ends upside down.

•Are fun to to use but baitcasters are for patient people who like to mess around a bit more. If you're on a tight time budget, spinning reels might be better.

 

Phone